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what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? #6619791
09/18/19 04:57 PM
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Where is it? It seems to be somewhere in the Montana/Idaho area, like the bob mashall wilderness in montana, or maybe the selway bitter root wilderness in Idaho? I have a great longing to visit a truly isolated spot and feel true solitude. Nebraska just isn't cutting it grin I've been on a few mountain trips with my wife, and can't seem to get away from other people. On our last trip we hiked 7 miles into the mountains in new mexico, only to find another person camping 200 yards from where we were, and saw plenty of people on the trail. Not looking for somewhere to live, just somewhere to visit and do a backpacking trip (obviously, anyplace you can visit without having to do some serious hiking to isn't isolated.)

Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619794
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619798
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It's like that everywhere I have been. Tough to get away from people unless the weather is bad.


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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619805
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619814
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loosegoose -

For the past 40 years I've quested for what I consider true wild areas. I have my own definition of it, but that would take up far too much space in this forum. Basically, it means going into a place (by boat, Supercub, etc.) and spending at least 5 days exploring (not confined to camp), traveling, seeking, and not see any evidence of modern mankind. Each affront to my senses (a spent cartridge, an axe mark on a tree, a boot print) receives negative points, depending on its severity. In my life, I've actually found 2 such places, one in Alaska and one in Far Eastern Russia. Many of the places I go come close, but no cigar. Looking up on a clear night is exempted, as there's no place on earth from which you can't see satellites.

The largest roadless area in the Lower-48 is in the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness, just to the west of me. I've spent many, many days (months) in there, and from my perspective, it doesn't even come close to being a true wild area (yeah, I'll admit to being a wild-area snob). The Frank is 2.367 million acres, the Bob (Bob Marshall Wilderness) is slightly over 1 million.

Good luck on your search. A wild area is how you define it.

Jack


Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619815
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Where is it? It seems to be somewhere in the Montana/Idaho area, like the bob mashall wilderness in montana, or maybe the selway bitter root wilderness in Idaho? I have a great longing to visit a truly isolated spot and feel true solitude. Nebraska just isn't cutting it grin I've been on a few mountain trips with my wife, and can't seem to get away from other people. On our last trip we hiked 7 miles into the mountains in new mexico, only to find another person camping 200 yards from where we were, and saw plenty of people on the trail. Not looking for somewhere to live, just somewhere to visit and do a backpacking trip (obviously, anyplace you can visit without having to do some serious hiking to isn't isolated.)

If I recall you camped in the Pecos, right? That is a very popular area for fishing, hunting and camping. Next time you come here let me know in advance and I can give you some remote areas to go to. Also it depends on time of year. The end of fall through late winter you will be able to go more places with a lot less people.

Desert Valley? Salt flats?

Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619820
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Drive west when you hit Winnemucca turn north go to the Steens Mts stop and walk its there called the Oregon outback

Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619826
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Hmmm, I can think of a few in the Upper Midwest ;
BWCA ; Quetico ; Isle Royale

Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619833
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Have fun with this site: Project Remote

This subject has also fascinated me.

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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619861
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Whats that red dot in Cherry county mean?


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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619865
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It may not be the most isolated spot, but the Okanogan- Wenatchee National Forest, which is 4 million plus acres on the East side of the Cascade Mountains has to be pretty close. I drove in it for over 4 hours without seeing a single human dwelling.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/okawen/

Many people believe bigfoot lives there. I don't believe bigfoot is very likely to be real, but that chunk of land is big and desolate enough, that I would be only mildly surprised if a bigfoot was found there, compared to anywhere else in the US.

Keith

Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619872
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If we're talking about rain and cool weather being remote it would be Coaling Alabama.

Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619902
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Multiple sources say the River of No Return Wilderness Area in Idaho.

Any of you cowboys been there?

Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: Dirt] #6619904
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Cherry county Nebraska.



Them words precede about every severe weather report we have here! eek

Red dot least populated county in that State I'd guess?

Last edited by Law Dog; 09/18/19 07:15 PM.

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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619918
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I really thought somewhere in Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, or North Dakota sure seems like when you drive though some of those states you don’t see anyone for miles.

Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619920
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619922
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: Pike River] #6619931
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Have fun with this site: Project Remote

This subject has also fascinated me.

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They have a Youtube channel it appears. Thanks. Neat stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/user/RemoteFootprints/videos


Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: loosegoose] #6619933
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The most isolated spot in the lower 48 is my ex-wife’s heart!!

Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48? [Re: Gulo] #6619962
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Originally Posted by Gulo
loosegoose -

For the past 40 years I've quested for what I consider true wild areas. I have my own definition of it, but that would take up far too much space in this forum. Basically, it means going into a place (by boat, Supercub, etc.) and spending at least 5 days exploring (not confined to camp), traveling, seeking, and not see any evidence of modern mankind. Each affront to my senses (a spent cartridge, an axe mark on a tree, a boot print) receives negative points, depending on its severity. In my life, I've actually found 2 such places, one in Alaska and one in Far Eastern Russia. Many of the places I go come close, but no cigar. Looking up on a clear night is exempted, as there's no place on earth from which you can't see satellites.

The largest roadless area in the Lower-48 is in the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness, just to the west of me. I've spent many, many days (months) in there, and from my perspective, it doesn't even come close to being a true wild area (yeah, I'll admit to being a wild-area snob). The Frank is 2.367 million acres, the Bob (Bob Marshall Wilderness) is slightly over 1 million.

Good luck on your search. A wild area is how you define it.

Jack




Indeed, Jack.

Lots of memories for me in mention of the wild areas of Idaho and Montana. Not a few of those places I have enjoyed also on foot for as much as ten days at a time. You do find places that are dear to the heart and look forward to seeing them again, if not just residing in the heart forever.

I have a place like that up against the China Wall , by the White river . Off the trail , a place I found all my own. Not the most remote spot by comparison, but some days in from all points on the compass, unless one takes a bush plane into the interior runway that doubles as pasture for outfitter and Forest Service mules and horses. A place you only wish to share with the one dear to your heart.

One thing Ive found , on being in places like that, you are able to decipher why you crave the remote places ....it is a place in the heart and mind that wants to escape society, of which we have the least in common .

Not all people ...and so we find enjoyment in sharing such places with select few of like mind.

We cherish the ones dearest to us , which well can only include the one we are in love with , and want by our side always, followed by close friends and relatives , depending on the individual.

It is indeed, Jack, how one defines a wild area. For sheer elbow room, your point is well made . For this country, the Idaho/Montana/Alaska places are my choice as well.

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