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Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters #6619816
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Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters in separate attacks at national forest

https://www.foxnews.com/us/montana-grizzly-bear-attack-hunters

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Two separate grizzly bear attacks in Montana this week left three hunters injured and had wildlife officials investigating whether the men had fought for their lives against the same animal.

The men were attacked less than 12 hours apart near Cottonwood Creek on the west side of the Gravelly Mountains at the Beaverhead-Deerlodge National Forest, the Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks (FWP) said Tuesday.

All three men survived with moderate to severe injuries, officials said.

Wardens were investigating whether the same bear was involved in both attacks.

A single grizzly bear attacked the first pair of hunters at around 7:30 a.m. on Monday, officials said. The two men managed to fight off the bear and drive themselves to Ennis, where doctors treated them at a hospital.

A second attack at around 6:30 p.m. also involved a single grizzly and two hunters, officials said. One hunter suffered injuries and was treated in Sheridan and later Butte.

While officials haven’t released further details on the attacks, the two men injured in the first incident were spotted in hospital gowns at Shedhorn Sports in Ennis, where an employee said they were looking to buy new clothes.

Terri James, the employee who spoke with the men, posted pictures on Facebook.

James wrote that while the men said they had guns with them, it was bear spray that saved their lives.

“The bear was on top of one of the men, and the other one was able to get to his bear spray,” James told KECI-TV. “He sprayed the bear, and that's what made the bear leave.”

The FWP reminded people to be cautious outdoors because bears have been active this time of year. They advised to travel in groups and not only to carry bear spray, but also to know how to use it.

If a grizzly bear is encountered, the agency said to slowly back away and leave the area.

Re: Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters [Re: Ray B] #6619819
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In 2011 a buddy and myself were charged by a sow within 3 miles of where these guys got attacked. Luckily my .357 did the job on the final round out of 5 shots. I feel for these guys but have to ask the question, did they not have pistols or at least bear spray? Brings back alot of memories

Re: Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters [Re: Ray B] #6619848
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WOW. I hadn't heard that yet. I have hunted elk in the Gravelly Mountains many times for elk . Did it say where those hunters were from??

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Re: Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters [Re: Ray B] #6619882
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That sure sucks.


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Re: Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters [Re: Ray B] #6619887
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Interesting. We make jokes about bear spray up here. Some guys carry a back-up handgun.

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Re: Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters [Re: Ray B] #6619900
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^ >> I'm not sure and not going to say either way what is legal or not but I have know two different people that shot grizzles in self defense and were thrown the book at for doing so. In archery it is a fine line if you care a bullet firing weapon while archery hunting. I'm not saying we care or not but I do beleive it maybe a judgement call by the DNR if an issue occurs.

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Re: Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters [Re: Ray B] #6619901
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Anyone hear that on the national news?

Me neither!

I guess its not important.

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Re: Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters [Re: Ray B] #6619905
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If it ever happens to me, I hope I have the time to empty my rifle, then handgun, into the bear. I'll keep out of the hospital and deal with the law later, thank you very much.

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Re: Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters [Re: Ray B] #6619913
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I have found using a gun properly and accurately is more effective than a spray can of anything. I do not use critter repellent to get caught critters to take a ride in my truck to the fur shed.


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Re: Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters [Re: Ray B] #6619919
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^ I agree but we all don't have a good attorney in our back pocket. LOL

The two different groups I know of it happened too, it wasn't a pleasant experience. The one guy lost his hunting rights but can't remember for how long and it was a long drug out deal.


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Re: Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters [Re: Ray B] #6619980
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Up here, you pretty much have to prove they were charging when you shot.

The problem is that when they charge, you often don't have time to shoot.

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Re: Grizzly bear injures 3 Montana hunters [Re: Ray B] #6619998
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I heard about this , too.

Encounters like that are not infrequent in southern parts down there , and in some other places , even here, are becoming more and more the same.

Especially when they hear gunshots in rifle season. Just as in some parts of AK, they have learned that there is food for the taking , and come running to the shot.

No spray for the ones I know who hunt, they have backup guards while processing deer, elk, etc . Shotguns, 375 H&H , 338 , 4570 , along with high powered revolvers are the norm with ones who are out in the bush hunting. In thick trees with limited vision , things can happen all too fast , so it pays to be ready in those areas .

I too have been asked to stand guard and simply keep an eye on everyone as they work ,and/or horses, with my 300 Weatherby mag M V . A nice way to enjoy the mountains and take back some good cuts of elk for the time spent watching .

Over protected bears tend to become as classic "debil chilluns " under the right circumstances, and bully everyone at will in learning to run to gunfire , knowing they will do as they please and get free meals.

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there needs to be a season


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If there's a season, fwp will probably give 2 tags a year. I don't think that'll do much to thin out the bears or even condition them to be more careful of people.

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i know its a federal thing but our govna needs to go. get a govna in there that will appoint better suited FWP directors


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^ I wonder if trump has been asked about opening up a season on them. I bet he would getter done but would be a fight from the tree huggers.


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I walked about a half mile down a BLM road and sat one the ground. Ate a candy bar and decided to return to the truck for a nap and await my partner’s return. A sow grizzly and two cubs crossed my path leaving their tracks on mine in the inch of snow that had fallen. My timing was good.

Near Seally Lake, MT.

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I am not going to rely on a spray can to defend myself from a bear. In order to use it effectively, the bear, at that moment, would likely be transferring chunks of me into its stool.
But then that would prove once and for all that my late father was wrong, and that I would indeed, "amount to 'spit'."

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Too many lawyers like James making their living suing the govt over every decision they make to support a common sense solution like delisting.

They try to put a logging road in W Montana and centers for biological diversity files a lawsuit saying it's affecting the griz. Meanwhile the bears are walking down county roads eating choke cherries in the ditch.

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Originally Posted by James
Up here, you pretty much have to prove they were charging when you shot.

The problem is that when they charge, you often don't have time to shoot.

Jim



Don't forget that you can also protect your property. The main thing you need to prove is that you were not negligent in the way you handled camp cleanliness.


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