Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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Multiple sources say the River of No Return Wilderness Area in Idaho.
Any of you cowboys been there? Lots of cowpokes been there and never returned
The Green Eyed Trapper
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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now thats funny right there
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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One needs to remember that there's a air strip in the Bob Marshall as Sharon mentioned my cousin has used it a time or two if memory serves me correctly. I've not been there myself but my favorite place where cellphones become a expensive watch is in eastern Mt and I'll keep the exact location to myself so it stays that way . And heaven help you if while you're out there it rains or snows stay where you are and wait for it to either dry out or freeze.
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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Where is it? It seems to be somewhere in the Montana/Idaho area, like the bob mashall wilderness in montana, or maybe the selway bitter root wilderness in Idaho? I have a great longing to visit a truly isolated spot and feel true solitude. Nebraska just isn't cutting it I've been on a few mountain trips with my wife, and can't seem to get away from other people. On our last trip we hiked 7 miles into the mountains in new mexico, only to find another person camping 200 yards from where we were, and saw plenty of people on the trail. Not looking for somewhere to live, just somewhere to visit and do a backpacking trip (obviously, anyplace you can visit without having to do some serious hiking to isn't isolated.) If you can't get lost, (or hide a body) in NE, your just not trying. I buy fur from Alberta to Albuquerque, and The great Salt lake to Council Bluffs. In all those acres there's nowhere so awesomely alone as the sandhills.
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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One needs to remember that there's a air strip in the Bob Marshall as Sharon mentioned my cousin has used it a time or two if memory serves me correctly. I've not been there myself but my favorite place where cellphones become a expensive watch is in eastern Mt and I'll keep the exact location to myself so it stays that way . And heaven help you if while you're out there it rains or snows stay where you are and wait for it to either dry out or freeze. Allen, there are two of those interior pastoral air strips in the Bob proper .....one is used most often, the other, not too much at all . At least it was'nt when I went on my trips there. The one I referred to is the one least used. As Jack so well described, a constellation of description which would fill the forum in sheer beauty .
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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loosegoose -
For the past 40 years I've quested for what I consider true wild areas. I have my own definition of it, but that would take up far too much space in this forum. Basically, it means going into a place (by boat, Supercub, etc.) and spending at least 5 days exploring (not confined to camp), traveling, seeking, and not see any evidence of modern mankind. Each affront to my senses (a spent cartridge, an axe mark on a tree, a boot print) receives negative points, depending on its severity. In my life, I've actually found 2 such places, one in Alaska and one in Far Eastern Russia. Many of the places I go come close, but no cigar. Looking up on a clear night is exempted, as there's no place on earth from which you can't see satellites.
The largest roadless area in the Lower-48 is in the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness, just to the west of me. I've spent many, many days (months) in there, and from my perspective, it doesn't even come close to being a true wild area (yeah, I'll admit to being a wild-area snob). The Frank is 2.367 million acres, the Bob (Bob Marshall Wilderness) is slightly over 1 million.
Good luck on your search. A wild area is how you define it.
Jack This describes well what I'm looking for. Western Nebraska is huge and desolate, I've done a road trip through there with my wife, and drove on plenty of roads where I played "zombie apocalypse" by driving down the middle of the road or in the left lane as fast as I wanted for miles. But most of Western Nebraska is privately owned, with cows everywhere. And if I'm on a road, it's not the kind of isolated I'm looking for. I'm looking for true wilderness, a place with no trace of mankind, where I'm as far from civilization as possible, a place that's untouched and mostly unseen by man, a place that's the same as its been since before civilization.
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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One needs to remember that there's a air strip in the Bob Marshall as Sharon mentioned my cousin has used it a time or two if memory serves me correctly. I've not been there myself but my favorite place where cellphones become a expensive watch is in eastern Mt and I'll keep the exact location to myself so it stays that way . And heaven help you if while you're out there it rains or snows stay where you are and wait for it to either dry out or freeze. Yep. Where I'm at no service, one way in one way out, and you are right Allen, things are very remote. I like it that way!
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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loosegoose -
For the past 40 years I've quested for what I consider true wild areas. I have my own definition of it, but that would take up far too much space in this forum. Basically, it means going into a place (by boat, Supercub, etc.) and spending at least 5 days exploring (not confined to camp), traveling, seeking, and not see any evidence of modern mankind. Each affront to my senses (a spent cartridge, an axe mark on a tree, a boot print) receives negative points, depending on its severity. In my life, I've actually found 2 such places, one in Alaska and one in Far Eastern Russia. Many of the places I go come close, but no cigar. Looking up on a clear night is exempted, as there's no place on earth from which you can't see satellites.
The largest roadless area in the Lower-48 is in the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness, just to the west of me. I've spent many, many days (months) in there, and from my perspective, it doesn't even come close to being a true wild area (yeah, I'll admit to being a wild-area snob). The Frank is 2.367 million acres, the Bob (Bob Marshall Wilderness) is slightly over 1 million.
Good luck on your search. A wild area is how you define it.
Jack This describes well what I'm looking for. Western Nebraska is huge and desolate, I've done a road trip through there with my wife, and drove on plenty of roads where I played "zombie apocalypse" by driving down the middle of the road or in the left lane as fast as I wanted for miles. But most of Western Nebraska is privately owned, with cows everywhere. And if I'm on a road, it's not the kind of isolated I'm looking for. I'm looking for true wilderness, a place with no trace of mankind, where I'm as far from civilization as possible, a place that's untouched and mostly unseen by man, a place that's the same as its been since before civilization. Just curious about why you are limiting yourself to the L48 ? When are you thinking of doing this ?
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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Places here you could watch your dog run away for 3 days!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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I got to thinking back to when my cousins and I talked about his trips into the Bob and remembered that there were two airstrips there . It's been awhile since we've got a chance to visit since they moved to Alaska . Another friend of mine just spent close to 3 weeks there with his packstring a fun trip in my way of thinking.
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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I also have heard the Thorofare is the most isolated area in the lower 48 based on distance from roads and no air strips. I know several guides from that area and the stories they tell are outstanding.
I can't believe that cop put me in the back seat when I clearly called shotgun.
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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the big red PA dot is over my house on that map.no cell service here either thankfully.
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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the big red PA dot is over my house on that map.no cell service here either thankfully. I thought you were west of that
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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Just curious about why you are limiting yourself to the L48 ?
When are you thinking of doing this ?
It's gotta be the lower 48 because I want to be able to drive there without half the trip spent driving It wouldn't be soon, maybe in a year and a half or so, so I've got time to think about it and plan. I have a primal urge of sorts to experience complete isolation. I'm looking to do a "vision quest" of sorts, to go and spend a week or so by myself in complete solitude and spend time with myself and figure some things out and come back different. I'm hoping to find somewhere where I can hike in and set up camp (even if it takes 2 days to get there), and stay in camp 4-5 days exploring the area but not moving camp, and then return home. Of course I want to explore the beauty of the area, but mostly I want to spend some time with myself in complete solitude and learn about myself in ways I haven't had time or ability to do in the past.
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Re: what's the most isolated spot in the lower 48?
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There are several places in Cherry County you can definitely get isolated. McKelvie National Forest is one but its grassland, not forest. You can camp overnight. Valentine National Wildlife refuge and Ft Niobrara refuges also, but cant camp overnight. And it is Nebraska, so plan carefully according to season of the year and watch the forecast!
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