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Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) #6620771
09/19/19 08:55 PM
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700 is my budget. Thinking m&p sport II. What would you people choose?


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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6620777
09/19/19 08:59 PM
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I would build one to be honest. For 700 bucks you can put a nice one together. What do you want it for is the question. Does it have to be in 5.56 or are you open to other calibers ??


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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6620782
09/19/19 09:01 PM
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What Scuba1 said. You can start with a basic rifle kit and upgrade the trigger, sights, stock and fore end and still have money left for extra mags and ammo.

Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6620809
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I agree -- build one. That way you can get it set up the way you think you want -- change it later to what you find works for you.

Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6620815
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Yep build what you want the way you want it I'd stick with the .223 in these crazy times, them other calibers might be fancy clubs in the future if you can't find ammo for them and NATO rounds are common and cheap.


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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6620910
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7.62X39 ammo is cheap and widely available, and it is available in soft point for deer sized game. I don't know about the price of uppers in that caliber though.

Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6620920
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https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...t-m-lok-moe-ept-rifle-kit-516446780.html

and a 50 dollar lower from fleet farm.

spend the rest on a 2-7x32 scope , Magazines ,GI web sling with QD mounts and ammo

a free float hand-guard , the ept trigger is a little better than mill spec, a 2-7 scope is still every shoot-able at 1/4 mile you can upgrade later if you like but that puts you in a rifle that you should be able to score hits at 1/4 mile on a 12 inch target.

done

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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6620928
09/19/19 11:41 PM
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I’m in the market for an AR too. Aside from building one, what are some good factory models? I have been looking at the M&P too.

Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6620962
09/20/19 01:20 AM
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I'm in the market for one too, though I'm not interested in building one.

I don't mind paying for quality, and want a full-length, fixed stock and preferably a 22-inch barrel.

This shall be my Beto rifle.

Jim


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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6620963
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As said before get a PSA and use the change for some ammo.


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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6621038
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Bear creek arsenal here in NC makes perfectly functional ar15s for less than $400 for the complete gun in several calibers.


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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6621039
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Include in your budget mags, ammo, and maybe a sling and a scope depending on your purpose. Definitely mags and ammo though. Building one is not a big deal, it takes literally 15-20 minutes to put a lower together with nothing but a hammer and a punch at your kitchen table. Just buy a complete upper that has what you want, a lower takes 5 seconds to attach.

Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6621078
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Most any Ar will shoot MOA or better. The thing that makes a major difference is the trigger. Mil spec are usually rough, creepy and ave a pull weight to dislodge a finger. No matter what AR you buy, invest a bit of money in a decent trigger if ya can't work them over yourself.


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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6621094
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I just recently bought a M&P 15 (not the sport) and really like it.


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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6621096
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Noveske is my favorite that I own at the moment.

Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6621142
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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6621288
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It seems to me like PSA has a upper and lower combo on sale right now for $319. You can change anything you think you need to down the road.


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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: MJM] #6621409
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Is a 223 wylde worth the extra money

Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: Kel] #6621430
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Originally Posted by Kel
Is a 223 wylde worth the extra money


not if it is a lot more money.
in most of the barrels it is not much more. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1017600744 this is 139 for a medium contour barrel in stainless.

223 wylde is a tighter lead than the 5.56 but less tight then 223 rem it is safe to fire 5.56 from but puts your bullet in rifling with less free bore

it isn't a need but perhaps a step in getting a little smaller group.

we shoot the ARs out to 4 and 5 hundred yards , free float is worth more than a traditional hand guard , not to say a traditional hand guard can't shoot well but when your slung up shooting a 1/4 mile not pulling on the barrel definitely helps.

I have the target from my 223 wylde with free float hand guard , 3-9 scope and polished trigger with a spring kit 10 rounds fired and 10 rounds can be covered by a dollar bill at 400 yards this was from a bipod during ammo testing

but since little direction was given in what he wants it for , I just use my personal experience

but that is just my brand of shooting , I don't chase the smallest group , I chase a very effective group shot with me , a sling and a rifle. working to keep me shooting well in whatever the conditions are.

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Re: Help me pick my new sporting rifle (AR15) [Re: James] #6621604
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Originally Posted by James
I'm in the market for one too, though I'm not interested in building one.

I don't mind paying for quality, and want a full-length, fixed stock and preferably a 22-inch barrel.

This shall be my Beto rifle.

Jim


20 inch predator pursuit sounds like what you would like 22 inch barrel is almost un-heard of
https://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=243


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