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Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: Gary Benson] #6621893 09/21/19 11:00 AM 09/21/19 11:00 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,514 juneau, alaska A alaska viking "Made it two years not being censored"
alaska viking "Made it two years not being censored" A Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,514 juneau, alaska	Nothing to that electrical stuff! Made it almost 3 years without censor!

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: hippie] #6621946 09/21/19 01:15 PM 09/21/19 01:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,111 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,111 Ky	Originally Posted by hippie I don't see how they can make you wire it for electric heat Gary. Allot of extra expense you won't use. When I built my garage, I wired one wall with outlets and then had them hook me up so I had power to complete the building. They only checked that day and were never back. Doubt he meant he HAD to wire it for electrical heat, but instead just that he had to put a 200 amp breaker box since it was going to by considered a "living" quarters. Sometimes people get too old or crippled up to use wood/ pellet stoves. Then the heat can be added IF the service can handle it. You guys do realize that 220 circuits can be gotten off of any electric panel that is 208 / 120 coming into a house. The double pole breaker makes that possible. So if he has 2 extra breakers in his box he has 220 heat circuit as long as the main is big enough for all that is in that. Asking for 220 is not the end of the world. LOL Heck any 100 amp barn panel that only uses 2breakers for lights and 2 breakers for plugs is wired for 220 heat source

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: hippie] #6621952 09/21/19 01:22 PM 09/21/19 01:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,111 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,111 Ky	Originally Posted by hippie I don't see how they can make you wire it for electric heat Gary. Allot of extra expense you won't use. When I built my garage, I wired one wall with outlets and then had them hook me up so I had power to complete the building. They only checked that day and were never back. Not really , As long as his panel has enough amps available and he has an empty spot for a double pole breaker

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: Gary Benson] #6622032 09/21/19 04:07 PM 09/21/19 04:07 PM
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CGilliam Unregistered C	I think the craziest thing in this thread is that people still refer to 240v as 220v. Europe has 220v, the US has 240v. Here it is actually 248v, and 124v. Referring to American power outlets as 110v or 220v is pretty dated. Does this make me an electrical grammar Nazi?

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: ] #6622047 09/21/19 04:34 PM 09/21/19 04:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,111 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,111 Ky	Originally Posted by CGilliam I think the craziest thing in this thread is that people still refer to 240v as 220v. Europe has 220v, the US has 240v. Here it is actually 248v, and 124v. Referring to American power outlets as 110v or 220v is pretty dated. Does this make me an electrical grammar Nazi? Maybe were you are but around here 108 volts / 215 is about all you can read if you put a tester to it. You do realize the numbers are the rating not actual voltage don't you ? Bet a 180v wild leg would really have you scratching your head !!! LOL Last edited by jbyrd63; 09/21/19 04:35 PM.

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: Gary Benson] #6622049 09/21/19 04:37 PM 09/21/19 04:37 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,111 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,111 Ky	Man you are in foley Ala . LOVE that place . Cactus cantina best mex restaurant I ever ate at. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: ] #6622053 09/21/19 04:41 PM 09/21/19 04:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,473 Northern Ohio ... S Sullivan K "Keith"
Sullivan K "Keith" S Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,473 Northern Ohio ...	Originally Posted by CGilliam I think the craziest thing in this thread is that people still refer to 240v as 220v. Referring to American power outlets as 110v or 220v is pretty dated. Around here we run closer to 125/250. But, the power supplier refers to their supply as 110/220. My name ain't Keith

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: jbyrd63] #6622059 09/21/19 04:50 PM 09/21/19 04:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,473 Northern Ohio ... S Sullivan K "Keith"
Sullivan K "Keith" S Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,473 Northern Ohio ...	Originally Posted by jbyrd63 You guys do realize that 220 circuits can be gotten off of any electric panel that is 208 / 120 coming into a house. The double pole breaker makes that possible. If you have a 208/120 panel, a double pole breaker is going to give you 208, not 220. A single pole breaker will give you 120, but a 2 pole breaker will give you 208 My name ain't Keith

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: jbyrd63] #6622062 09/21/19 05:02 PM 09/21/19 05:02 PM
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CGilliam Unregistered C	[/quote] Bet a 180v wild leg would really have you scratching your head !!! LOL [/quote] Yes, actually it would. I'll have to read up on that. Thanks!

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: ] #6622065 09/21/19 05:08 PM 09/21/19 05:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,473 Northern Ohio ... S Sullivan K "Keith"
Sullivan K "Keith" S Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,473 Northern Ohio ...	You are only going to get a wild leg in Delta, "Y" has no wild leg. My name ain't Keith

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: Gary Benson] #6622067 09/21/19 05:09 PM 09/21/19 05:09 PM
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 10,817 Asheville, NC C charles trapper
charles trapper C Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 10,817 Asheville, NC	Does the National Electric Code not apply to some states? Asking for a friend.

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: charles] #6622075 09/21/19 05:17 PM 09/21/19 05:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,473 Northern Ohio ... S Sullivan K "Keith"
Sullivan K "Keith" S Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,473 Northern Ohio ...	Originally Posted by charles Does the National Electric Code not apply to some states? Asking for a friend. I imagine there still are some places that have no building codes. It would take one heck of a search to find out what counties, in which states, did not have building codes, but I bet there are some. My name ain't Keith

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: Gary Benson] #6622088 09/21/19 05:42 PM 09/21/19 05:42 PM
Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 1,324 vermont V vermontster trapper
vermontster trapper V Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 1,324 vermont	I believe any state codes override the NEC. I recommend checking with your state. The bitterness of poor quality last a lot longer than the sweetness of low price

Re: State Electrical Inspector......ARGH [Re: loosegoose] #6622089 09/21/19 05:43 PM 09/21/19 05:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,696 Sandhills Nebraska G Gary Benson OP trapper
Gary Benson OP trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,696 Sandhills Nebraska	Originally Posted by loosegoose My wiring book (not the NEC code book, but a book about wiring based on the 2017-2020 NEC) says that all kitchen small appliance circuits have to be GFCI, and there has to be 2 20amp small appliance circuits. Seems to me the easiest thing to do would be to wire them up using regular outlets and GFCI breakers, and not worry about what exact locations have to be GFCI. Better safe than sorry. Yes. But every outlet in the house has to be tamper resistant as well. Life ain't supposed to be easy.

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