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Old muzzleloading shotgun question? #6622409
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Does anyone have any info about this old double barrel muzzleloader? Pics to follow...


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Re: Old muzzleloading shotgun question? [Re: Coon Duke] #6622418
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Re: Old muzzleloading shotgun question? [Re: Coon Duke] #6622421
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Nice. From the pictures that old gun looks shootable. In movies the pioneer family had Winchester or Henry lever guns. Those toughs rascals that did it for real usually had a shotgun. I doubt a more versatile firearm will ever be invented than a shotgun.


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Re: Old muzzleloading shotgun question? [Re: Coon Duke] #6622451
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It says "fine laminated steel" so is obviously twist or Damascus. It has vent plugs on the side near the breech-a feature found only on higher quality guns.
Drop the ramrod in the barrels and check the length against the outside to make sure it isn't loaded-many still are. No clue as to maker-should be on the lock plates. Need closer pictures.


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Re: Old muzzleloading shotgun question? [Re: coonlove] #6622498
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Originally Posted by coonlove
It says "fine laminated steel" so is obviously twist or Damascus. It has vent plugs on the side near the breech-a feature found only on higher quality guns.
Drop the ramrod in the barrels and check the length against the outside to make sure it isn't loaded-many still are. No clue as to maker-should be on the lock plates. Need closer pictures.


Looks like a fine piece

Might not have a makers name on it some don’t but definitely check the side plate

I have a friend who has a Henry nock shotgun and the name is under the forend by the breech



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Re: Old muzzleloading shotgun question? [Re: Coon Duke] #6622560
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Awesome gun Todd!

I have some old muzzleloaders like that and the feel/ fit of them is great. Love the drop in them. Are you going to shoot it?

Re: Old muzzleloading shotgun question? [Re: Coon Duke] #6622572
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I would be the last person to say"don't shoot it", but it needs to be checked for safety. Bore condition is one and the locks are another. Twist barrels are problematic in that there can be pockets of impurities or voids in the metal that are not visible. The quality of this gun helps in that regard.
The one hammer is at halfcock-on purpose or a problem? Also these are often a bore size not common today. There are wads available in a variety of sizes from Circle Fly and track of the wolf. If all checks out then have at it.


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Re: Old muzzleloading shotgun question? [Re: Coon Duke] #6622578
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I want to reiterate what coonlove said...check to make sure there is not a load in the barrels.

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Re: Old muzzleloading shotgun question? [Re: Coon Duke] #6622586
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if you can remove the barrels on the bottom breech end will be symbols these represent the maker where the gun was proofed and sometimes the time of manufacture google early proof marks leige,belgium proofs gardonne,italy proofs English proofs these are the main importers of percussion shotguns mainly Belgium


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Originally Posted by coonlove
I would be the last person to say"don't shoot it", but it needs to be checked for safety. Bore condition is one and the locks are another. Twist barrels are problematic in that there can be pockets of impurities or voids in the metal that are not visible. The quality of this gun helps in that regard.
The one hammer is at halfcock-on purpose or a problem? Also these are often a bore size not common today. There are wads available in a variety of sizes from Circle Fly and track of the wolf. If all checks out then have at it.


Yes, there is an “issue” with the one hammer.


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Re: Old muzzleloading shotgun question? [Re: jeff karsten] #6622820
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Originally Posted by jeff karsten
if you can remove the barrels on the bottom breech end will be symbols these represent the maker where the gun was proofed and sometimes the time of manufacture google early proof marks leige,belgium proofs gardonne,italy proofs English proofs these are the main importers of percussion shotguns mainly Belgium


this is how I usually can figure it out

may have marks inside the locks

also look under the forend


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Re: Old muzzleloading shotgun question? [Re: traprjohn] #6634091
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I think it reads Augustus Braun. Patent April 17, 1866.

Not sure if that helps anyone or not...


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Re: Old muzzleloading shotgun question? [Re: Coon Duke] #6634389
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found a copy of a patent for a shotgun lock lol


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