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Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623590
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well, let's have an honest approach (stop indoctrinating children)…

and put it to an honest vote...

Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623591
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On the PBS News Hour tonight they said that only 24% of young white people believe that we need to act immediately to stop climate change, compared to 40% of young black and Hispanic young people.

Keith

Re: Climate change ? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6623594
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by white marlin
stop worrying!

we are the most adaptable species (next to coyotes and cockroach, er…"palmetto bugs").

we'll figure it out as things change. (when the water gets up to our front porch step, we'll move!)


But if everybody would just stop what they are doing I wouldn’t have to move. lol



I'm far enough inland, that I might end up "ocean-front"! WIN!

Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623601
09/23/19 07:29 PM
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I think it’s crazy to spend money on natural change just because it had previously changed to accommodate a habitable place for humans. Like the idiots in Cali who build on a cliff that was created by, you guessed it, EARTH FALLING AWAY, only to be shocked when their property falls away. lol

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Re: Climate change ? [Re: DuxDawg] #6623604
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Originally Posted by DuxDawg
Originally Posted by wr otis
The question is what caused the cooling that created the ice ages. That's what people should be concerned with, because it is going to happen again.


Solar activity, and the lack thereof. Look into Solar Cycles, Grand Solar Minimums and Maximums. 98% of all climate on Earth is directly driven by the sun. 2% by volcanic activity. 0.0000006% of global climate is caused by all of mankind throughout all of human history combined.

Originally Posted by wr otis
Maybe a hotter Earth is more normal than a colder Earth.

Exactly. They don't have a clue what normal would be.

Besides, with a hotter than now Earth our options are numerous. As global climate cools our options shrink rapidly.


You failed to mention imperfect rotation and revolution in the flight path and axis unknown impact on variations in climate.


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Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623606
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the Earth DOES wobble a bit on its axis, and its orbit is NOT without variation.

and the sun's output is NOT consistent.

and there are too many variables to account for.

and...

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Re: Climate change ? [Re: white marlin] #6623608
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Originally Posted by white marlin
the Earth DOES wobble a bit on its axis, and its orbit is NOT without variation.

and the sun's output is NOT consistent.

and there are too many variables to account for.

and...


You don’t want to get off that money you’re bogarting to help your fellow man continue to enjoy his high dollar ocean front property. lol


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Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623611
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LOL!

buy cheap; sell (rent!) HIGH!!!

Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623624
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I bought a cabin on a river 40 years ago, I lived there until I got married, it's still in the family. The best advice I got was from a old fella that had the cabin next to me. " If you'er gonna live next to the river don't b----h about the water"

Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623633
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I disagree with the fact of his feet causing it I’d say it was the rolling resistance of his wheels, can you imagine how much heat that stone running on the ground at that speed would create. grin

Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623637
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Originally Posted by Hydropillar
What caused the earth to warm up after the last ice age ?? Was it fred flinstones car??

We are still in the " last ice age", we've been in up and down but warming epoch for about the last fifteen thousand years. Probably due to sun spots and other factors. The Earth is always been a dynamic place. Unlike a stagnant pond, dynamic conditions are probably what keep the Earth's ecosystems healthy. It's just that humans hate change.

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Re: Climate change ? [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6623642
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Originally Posted by Wild_Idaho
Well they are predicting snow this Saturday here, on September 28th so...

Here too. I think the big climate change push is all tied to one world power. That's why the Democrats are pushing it. They have grade school kids worried about it. It you feel it is real and a threat to life on earth. Due your part and sell your cars, don't heat or cool your house or use anything that is made using fuel.


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Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623647
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Just read an article from 1958 in Harpers magazine by written by Betty Freidan about 2 scientist Maurice Ewing and William Donn that says we are headed for a new ice age by at first the earth warming that causes a chain reaction of snow at the poles resulting in a new ice age they say it has happened in the past over thousands of years and is a natural cycle.

Re: Climate change ? [Re: white17] #6623649
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by Getting There
Sorry I can't answer you question. There has always been climate change but the concern is now is how fast it is changing.


UMmmmmmmm Not really !

If you haven't seen this it is worth a few minutes of your time


One of the best truthful videos I have ever seen. I'm a little embarrassed that I haven't found it before. Thanks for posting White!


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Re: Climate change ? [Re: MJM] #6623654
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Originally Posted by MJM
Originally Posted by Wild_Idaho

I think the big climate change push is all tied to one world power. That's why the Democrats are pushing it.


it is THE perfect vehicle for achieving an over-arching, one world government.

think about it...the fate of our very existence "depends" on international cooperation/control. We HAVE TO limit carbon (read: "productivity") regardless of the sovereign states' democratically elected representatives....our very EXISTENCE depends on us giving up our independence for the "greater good"!

PERFECT!!!



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Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623749
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One thing which I can take away from this entire discussion in this thread is, without any doubt whatsoever, we need to find out what's in the Kool-aid in East-Central Wisconsin and send the EPA, FDA, OSHA, NCAA, NAACP, and whatever other body is available to isolate it and make sure that no one else is poisoned by it. Good grief, how can someone become so misguided.
Based on his posts, the gentleman from Wisconsin needs our help. His posts are filled with so much absolutely wrong information, that I cannot even begin to dissect it in any real way.
Vague platitudes are difficult to debate against. I suppose that a seasoned debate expert would likely go after the premise of each topic he has brought up, and steer the discussion toward cold hard facts instead of made up, regurgitated "Truths.".
I don't have the time, so I shall instead invoke "The Kool-aid Defense."

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Re: Climate change ? [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6623753
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Originally Posted by Wild_Idaho
Well they are predicting snow this Saturday here, on September 28th so...


Hey we had snow on the hills here last saturday !! )))))


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Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623760
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In this day and age of statistics, statistics, and more statistics, where are the historical measurements tables showing variations of energy output levels from the sun?

Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623774
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As far as I’m concerned it’s child abuse. I heard clips today of the kids this weekend in Washington talking about how their lives are at an end because of climate change. Good lord!!! They are scaring these kids so bad it’s almost criminal.


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Re: Climate change ? [Re: Hydropillar] #6623778
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Still trying to figure out if trees eat co2 and we have such a emergency why are we not planting trees by the millions rather then asking for money to fix things?


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