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What is your definition of Violence?
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Re: Definition of:
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The actions of person A that could maim or kill person or persons B,C, D etc.
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if a human is threatened with or deliberately shot with a firearm.
what kind of reason is behind your question? its pretty simple
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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The term, "gun violence" is what the liberal mass media and leftist use to cast a negative image onto the gun instead the actual perpetrator. They want to condition their "sheep", guns bad, must ban guns... Think about it have you ever heard of "Knife Violence" or Car Violence"?
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Danny, thanks for your response. I will give you my answer to your question later on the post.
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Gun Violence may not be what you think it means or is. There is about 36,382 gun violent death on a avg. About 22,274 are suicides, 12,830 homicides, others are justified police shooting, hunting accident death, self defense death. You can see the larges group of death are suicides, that drops the number of Gun Violence death way down. There are still a small % of other groups. So why don't we work on the largest group. In almost every study this group keeps popping up. The new twist to things comparing the U.S. to other country is, "Countries with the same economic value as the U.S." Some of the other country that do not have the same economic value as the U.S. has a much higher gun violence record than the U.S. JMO
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Guns that is.
Guns are an equalizer! That's why they don't want you nor I to have them.
I worry more about a commie turd taking our guns than being killed at random by a criminal with a gun.
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The term, "gun violence" is what the liberal mass media and leftist use to cast a negative image onto the gun instead the actual perpetrator. They want to condition their "sheep", guns bad, must ban guns... Think about it have you ever heard of "Knife Violence" or Car Violence"? True. However, the liberals have now added on to “guns bad, must ban guns. Good people that own guns bad, therefore must ban good people from owning bad guns”.
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Violence is is act of harming another person .(my definition)
hurting yourself is Self harm , that is what they call it when people cut themselves intentionally , killing yourself should be no different.
Mr, Webster's definition violence noun vi·​o·​lence | \ ˈvī-lən(t)s , ˈvī-ə-\ Definition of violence 1a: the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy b: an instance of violent treatment or procedure 2: injury by or as if by distortion, infringement, or profanation : OUTRAGE 3a: intense, turbulent, or furious and often destructive action or force the violence of the storm b: vehement feeling or expression : FERVOR also : an instance of such action or feeling c: a clashing or jarring quality : DISCORDANCE 4: undue alteration (as of wording or sense in editing a text)
but you are absolutely correct that if we remove , self harm aka suicide from the "gun death" numbers it cuts it by more than half , then we remove outright homicide the number shrinks again significantly. then "Judaical intervention" aka the cop shot you the number we are left with is generally <500 a year in 330 million people. Personal I think if we researched that number a bit more and anytime the incident involved a controlled substance like the responsible party for the gun was stoned in the next room and left his gun on the bed for the 5 year old to find or the person was drunk , high , ect. and we called those homicide by negligent use just as we do with drunk driving. the number would be <300 as in less than one in 100 million 0.0000009% of gun deaths.
to put this in context if that real number of actually untended deaths by gun where no other factor like drug or alcohol use was taking place is likely to be less than the number of people who annually die form Tylenol / acetaminophen poisoning since that number and the annual CDC unintentional gun deaths is nearly between 400 and 499 each year
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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