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Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: white17] #6623277
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was talking this weekend and had this put into a perspective people talk like DEM is far left and Rep is far right

totalitarianism , and anarchy are the two extremes


totalitarianism ----DemRep--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------anarchy

there is no space between Dem and Rep only because I couldn't figure out how to get the R to cover the M


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Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: white17] #6623305
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Whoever and wherever and whatever the question, in the poll was taken, [b]is ALWAYS the question [/b]when presented to the public by the MEDIA!


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Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: white17] #6623314
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Do you really think pakistan and india or isreal and russia will get along long enough for a one world government? How about china and japan?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: danny clifton] #6623320
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Do you really think pakistan and india or isreal and russia will get along long enough for a one world government? How about china and japan?



I reckon they can get along just as good as Baptists and Mormons.


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Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: white17] #6623323
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Or perhaps at least agree on a government like trappers agree on the best set for Fox. lol


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Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: white17] #6623388
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I will probably upset a few with my comments, but such is life. First I am NOT against the 2nd admen., or the right to own a semi automatic weapon of your choice. But I would like to say that between the gun manufacturers and Testosterone pumped up macho men. they have perpetuated this crazy AR-15 talking point of the anti gun people. Guys thought it was cool to hold this black thing is their hands, that they could use a 15 to 30 round clip in. It was just testosterone talking. Little boys with big toys. Well the manufacturers loved this and proceeded to call it an AR-15. Some call it an Assault Rifle, Some an Automatic rifle (which it isn't). In the mean time the manufacturer capitalize on this and sell, thousand of them.

When a shooting occurs the news pickup on this black, ugly, threatening looking thing and see that it has been called an assault rifle. Then they blow this story up and villainize it. And this is then perpetuated by the anti 2 nd admen. people until it is completely out of control.

Now the stupid part begins: There are many .223 caliber rifles out there that look like regular rifle, with wood stock and forearm. You can mount a scope on them, night lights and about anything else you want. But they don't look threatening. These guns have been used for 100 years with very little concern. Large clips or magazines are not needed unless you are shooting at a range. Many states have maximum quantity or rounds permitted in a hunting weapon. I know some are five with maximum of 10, some as little as 3. But testosterone comes into the picture again. The bigger the better.

It is my suggestion that gun manufactures consider phasing out the replica military rifle and go back to the basics. Men are nothing more than little boys that have grown taller. Men are bigger suckers to advertising than women are in most cases. When the manufacturers starting coming out with Camo... my Lord... these guys went crazy buying clear down to their skivvies. Coats, hats, shirts, pants, shoes, sock and black and green paint to smear on their face.

I never owned any camo for hunting... I did a lot of hunting in a white t-shirt and blue jeans …. the last deer I killed, I was sitting on a downed tree, smoking a cigarette. Most of our grandparents didn't have all of this industry pumped up merchandise, including guns.

Another thing we are all ignorant of doing is continuingly calling the AR's by that name. I wonder how many of those over testosterone producing males would have or will now, buy an AR, if they from now on called "Blue Bell's Glory" and they are painted "Sky Blue" and all clips can hold no more than 5 in clip and one in chamber.

Human Nature is a strange thing...

Garry-

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Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: white17] #6623398
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It is my belief that any manufacturer that attempts to control their market will soon find that they have none. Should we also suggest that the big 3 automakers start reducing the hp in their trucks -- thats just testosterone too.

Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: Actor] #6623406
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Originally Posted by Actor
I will probably upset a few with my comments, but such is life. First I am NOT against the 2nd admen., or the right to own a semi automatic weapon of your choice. But I would like to say that between the gun manufacturers and Testosterone pumped up macho men. they have perpetuated this crazy AR-15 talking point of the anti gun people. Guys thought it was cool to hold this black thing is their hand, that they could use a 15 to 30 round clip in. It was just testosterone talking. Little boys with big toys. Well the manufacturers loved this and proceeded to call it an AR-15. Some call is an Assault Rifle, Some and Automatic rifle (which it isn't). In the mean time the manufacturer capitalize on this and sell, thousand of them.

When a shooting occurs the news pickup on this black, ugly, threatening looking thing and see that it has been called an assault rifle. Then they blow this story up and villainize it. And this is then perpetuated by the anti 2 nd admen. people until it is completely out of control.

Now the stupid part begins: There are many .223 caliber rifles out there that look like regular rifle, with wood stock and forearm. You can mount a scope on them, night lights and about anything else you want. But they don't look threatening. These guns have been used for 100 years with very little concern. Large clips or magazines are not needed unless you are shooting at a range. Many states have maximum quantity or rounds permitted in a hunting weapon. I know some are five with maximum of 10, some as little as 3. But testosterone comes into the picture again. The bigger the better.

It is my suggestion that gun manufactures consider phasing out the replica military rifle and go back to the basics. Men are nothing more than little boys that have grown taller. Men are bigger suckers to advertising than women are in most cases. When the manufacturers starting coming out with Camo... my Lord... these guys went crazy buying clear down to their skivvies. Coats, hats, shirts, pants, shoes, sock and black and green paint to smear on their face.

I never owned any camo for hunting... I did a lot of hunting in a white t-shirt and blue jeans …. the last deer I killed, I was sitting on a downed tree, smoking a cigarette. Most of our grandparents didn't have all of this industry pumped up merchandise, including guns.

Another thing we are all ignorant of doing is continuingly calling the AR's by that name. I wonder how many of those over testosterone producing males would have or will now, buy an AR, if they from now on called "Blue Bell's Glory" and they are painted "Sky Blue" and all clips can hold no more than 5 in clip and one in chamber.

Human Nature is a strange thing...

Garry-



I can see where your coming from and agree to a point.

I'd just like to point out that our Founders didn't write our rights to own a weapon for hunting or target practice, it was added to defend ourselves from a gov't like we have now that is trying to trample on our rights.

Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: white17] #6623422
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you can think whatever you like about black rifles or the AR-15 pattern rifle.

but I want to be very clear OUR FOREFATHERS THE FOUNDERS OF THIS NATION MADE IT CLEAR , WE THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME WEAPONS AS THE ARMY , INCLUDING CANNON. IT WAS VERY MUCH INTENTIONAL THAT THE PEOPLE BE AN EQUAL OR GREATER FORCE THAN THE GOVERNMENT AT ALL TIMES.

We are not a democracy , we are a constitutional republic , a democracy is a mob voting them selves power , wealth and favor at the expense of the minority.

AKA 2 wolves and a sheep voting on dinner.

a Constitutional Republic sets safe guards in place to protect the minority. a bill of rights , a jury of ones peers , burden of proof of guilt on the gov and not guilty until proven innocent , the electoral college.

a constitutional republic is 2 wolves and a sheep with a rifle saying not tonight if you will.


the sad part is politicians have been telling the truth for decades that they want a Democracy and we should have been afraid because that is not what we are.
But our schools in large part failed us telling us what we had was a democracy but they were misleading you. My school told us we had a Democratic Republic , less of a failure but still not fully correct.
now the politicians have told a bit more of the truth have they don't just want democracy they want Democratic socialism.
since 50% of what they say is lies , or trying to conceal their real agenda to gain election and we should expect what they really want is full on Socialism, after all elections make them work harder , if they could just do away with those pesky things.

Robert Francis aka Beto told his constituency just last year 2018 that the people had the right to own guns including the AR15 a year latter "HECK YES WE ARE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS" do you really think he did a full 180 , no he wanted to get elected in TX so he said what people wanted , with an agenda not inline for what he said.


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Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: white17] #6623493
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For those who do not already know, 'AR' stands for Armalite Rifle. Nothing to do with assault. The term 'assault rifle' was coined by Adolph Hitler.


The reason liberals use the term is because they are using Hitler's tactics in many, many ways.




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Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: white17] #6623531
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I don't believe hitler coined the word Sturmgewehr

BTW the literal translation is storm gun


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Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: brianmall] #6623550
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Originally Posted by brianmall
But on a religious note.

I believe the fall of America will kick off Armageddon! The world will fall into pure chaos when we fall.


The Bible says God would send them a strong delusion. This climate change hysteria might just be it.

Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: Actor] #6623569
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Originally Posted by Actor
I will probably upset a few with my comments, but such is life. First I am NOT against the 2nd admen., or the right to own a semi automatic weapon of your choice. But I would like to say that between the gun manufacturers and Testosterone pumped up macho men. they have perpetuated this crazy AR-15 talking point of the anti gun people. Guys thought it was cool to hold this black thing is their hand, that they could use a 15 to 30 round clip in. It was just testosterone talking. Little boys with big toys. Well the manufacturers loved this and proceeded to call it an AR-15. Some call is an Assault Rifle, Some and Automatic rifle (which it isn't). In the mean time the manufacturer capitalize on this and sell, thousand of them.

When a shooting occurs the news pickup on this black, ugly, threatening looking thing and see that it has been called an assault rifle. Then they blow this story up and villainize it. And this is then perpetuated by the anti 2 nd admen. people until it is completely out of control.

Now the stupid part begins: There are many .223 caliber rifles out there that look like regular rifle, with wood stock and forearm. You can mount a scope on them, night lights and about anything else you want. But they don't look threatening. These guns have been used for 100 years with very little concern. Large clips or magazines are not needed unless you are shooting at a range. Many states have maximum quantity or rounds permitted in a hunting weapon. I know some are five with maximum of 10, some as little as 3. But testosterone comes into the picture again. The bigger the better.

It is my suggestion that gun manufactures consider phasing out the replica military rifle and go back to the basics. Men are nothing more than little boys that have grown taller. Men are bigger suckers to advertising than women are in most cases. When the manufacturers starting coming out with Camo... my Lord... these guys went crazy buying clear down to their skivvies. Coats, hats, shirts, pants, shoes, sock and black and green paint to smear on their face.

I never owned any camo for hunting... I did a lot of hunting in a white t-shirt and blue jeans …. the last deer I killed, I was sitting on a downed tree, smoking a cigarette. Most of our grandparents didn't have all of this industry pumped up merchandise, including guns.

Another thing we are all ignorant of doing is continuingly calling the AR's by that name. I wonder how many of those over testosterone producing males would have or will now, buy an AR, if they from now on called "Blue Bell's Glory" and they are painted "Sky Blue" and all clips can hold no more than 5 in clip and one in chamber.

Human Nature is a strange thing...

Garry-

Well,your wrong.It wasn't guys trying to be macho that brought the ARs to light.It was men comeing home from Vietnam,that wanted a rifle for civilian use,based on the same platform they grew to trust and depend on in the service.When others cought on how accurate and dependable they were they became popular.And when you say there is no need for high capacity clips or magazines unless your at the shooting range,,,who are you to decide what others want or need.You sound like another liberal that thinks the second amendment is for hunting.


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Re: Supporting 2A should be illegal [Re: James] #6623574
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Originally Posted by James
Mathew 5:

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.


I don't understand the reference, J Staton.

It's interesting, though, that nowhere in Matthew 5 does Jesus condemn homosexuality or abortion.

Also, in verse 32 there is this interesting piece: "whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."

Jim

James I was referring to Leviticus 24:20. Christ "amended" that Mosaic Law from "eye for an eye" to " turn the other cheek." Amending may really not be the right word to use when referring to Christ and Mosaic Law. Fulfilled is the proper way. Since this is a discussion on the 2nd I referred to it as an amendment.
It's funny how you mentioned adultery. You can also find an "amendment" to Mosaic Law mentioned in the book of Leviticus. Compare Leviticus 20:10 to John 8:1-12.

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Originally Posted by Actor
Guys thought it was cool to hold this black thing is their hand, that they could use a 15 to 30 round clip in. It was just testosterone talking. Little boys with big toys. Well the manufacturers loved this and proceeded to call it an AR-15.



Garry-

You should do a little research before banging away at the keyboard.


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