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Employment labor law questions #6624897
09/25/19 03:37 PM
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I used have pretty decent factory job for close 20 years, they went out bussinness 3 years ago , I not to far from 60 yrs old with bad knee, an work at 2 part time jobs, 1 have had 1 for 4 plus years an pretty decent pay janitorial job with same old thing every time do it but not all hard work , the other part time job have had for 21 months though temp agency, much harder work, much lower pay, much left to be desired, only thing good is it close home, have had several other jobs before that 1, they make u work very hard, is it legal for employer to not let u use restroom to relief urself if not at break ? They really frown on it an superviser has become ridiculously strict with me,o N everthing, an let others slide, also there is a 5 minute meeting before work starts in morning that u have to be there for 5 minutes before start time, u punch in an sit down an meeting an then work, if late to it u might hear something very negative, I never gotten pay for that 5 minutes, I don't understand how they can do that ? At my job I work at close 30 yrs, yes a meeting but it was at start time an pay for it ? I been thinking about move on very soon or wait till mid November an something in mind close, an take a week off or more for trapping if afford it , with that much less pay , maybe get food stamps for a week ,better nothing , but they have really crack down in eligibility for snap benefits, I heard

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Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6624900
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I would tell them to pound ssnd and go some where else any where else.

Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6624902
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For the most part labor laws are going to be state dependent so keep that in mind with advice you receive.

Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6624905
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Maybe I should contact state Iowa labor law or Iowa works, I have done amazing amount t work for this place with very little Pay, oftentimes punch out after quit time at noon break an work till buzzer go an more stuff do bfore go an unappreciated, I really think if I go at another job an not though temp place , they could be made to pay from when I punch in an out

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Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6624927
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I would not want to do this while working there or even though temp agency or that company. It is not temp agency doing it but company pricks, my superviser at job where work at 30 years say they want no one working before punch in or at noon break or they could actually be sued, that 5 minutes, a day for 21 plus months ad up to $100s, after 12 noon, the latest I get pay, thousand easy, as supposed not quit till buzzer an then paperwork , counts, cleanup some, etc, but the stuff in morning with punch in an 5 minute meeting on me for free, is uncall for, it wouldn't upset me so much but how much they make u work an be so strict compared to others is why I upset a little, never happen me but others made a mistake or stood around wait for minute an sent home for day by mangement with no pay, not raise in 21 months, no benefits, holiday, no ins, nothing, not to mention these machines with 2 operaters sometimes an 1 set controls, supposed be 2 sets controls, reach in machine an the clown ur working with has hands rest in buttons or try start machine an look up in air, I guess could be real prick an quit an call ossia

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Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6624932
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Call the labor board. See what they say. It's not about you it's about you doing your part to help some other unfortunate soul who may end up there. Make them do right. I worked for a company who mowed the highway right away and the owner said that its seasonal work so no overtime. This went on for years and one day he said some hurtful things to a guy and he called the labor board and asked about this seasonal work and no overtime. Well guess what he had to go back a bunch of years and pay a lot of people money. Some that hant worked for him in a few years.

Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6625167
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pretty sure you shouldn't ask legal or medical questions here...especially, if you know what's good for you.

Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6625188
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A good place to start is Iowa Workforce they do that stuff and can direct to the right personnel you need to talk to.

Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6625235
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Using the restroom is a natural body function, and none of us have total control over when we have to go on any given day. If a employer refuses to let a person use the restroom when needed,it violates your human rights governed law . Most states have language written for this exact situation. If an employer is violating your human rights, please contact your state representative, or go onto your State home page and look up Human Rights.
If a person has to poop an a employer refuses let you do it, they are in violation. If a person is forced to stay on the job and soil themselves before getting relief , this is a whole can of worms that your employer does not want to answer to. Trust me, they will not win the case. Nuff said.


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Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6625282
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Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6625288
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If you have a good work record with the temp agency it should not be too hard to find something better or where you are treated better,even if you have to drive a bit further.

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Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6625291
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Find something else, better to leave than get the boot.

Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6625320
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If you can't find a good job in this economy you aren't trying. You've been given tons of advise about getting other jobs and not going through a temp agency, but you always make excuses why you won't find another job. Forget about the job you had at the factory for 20 years, it's gone never to return. Tomorrow start making things happen for a better future, only you can do it. If you keep doing what your doing you'll keep getting what you're getting. If you want things to get better in your life you have to make some effort for that to happen. Now is the time, Good luck Coonman.

Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6625358
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x2 fur hanger. As far as clock in 5 before shift let the labor department know. Some companies I have worked for have a "wash" for time clocks. Some gave 7 minutes before shift to clock in. But 7 minutes after clock out time means OT. But to not be paid for a meeting while on the clock when paid hourly, I believe is illegal or at least unethical.

Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6625364
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Look coonman, you are almost 60 years old and working a crap job and get pushed around. Hate to say it, but 60 year old people generally have enough value that they don't get pushed around. It is obvious to me you are not the normal close to 60 year old with knowledge that companies value. Generally, people who the company values will get cut you some slack. I'm not saying it is your fault that you are where you are, however it may be. I'm 56 and I turn down work, because I'm lazy. When I do work, I can usually get away with crap a 20 to 40 year old couldn't. You know why, because I make my employers money. If you are just a replaceable cog, you can be treated like one. Don't go crying to the government, it is none of the governments business IMO.


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Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: K52] #6625400
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Originally Posted by K52
If you can't find a good job in this economy you aren't trying. You've been given tons of advise about getting other jobs and not going through a temp agency, but you always make excuses why you won't find another job. Forget about the job you had at the factory for 20 years, it's gone never to return. Tomorrow start making things happen for a better future, only you can do it. If you keep doing what your doing you'll keep getting what you're getting. If you want things to get better in your life you have to make some effort for that to happen. Now is the time, Good luck Coonman.

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Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: pcr2] #6625408
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Originally Posted by K52
If you can't find a good job in this economy you aren't trying. You've been given tons of advise about getting other jobs and not going through a temp agency, but you always make excuses why you won't find another job. Forget about the job you had at the factory for 20 years, it's gone never to return. Tomorrow start making things happen for a better future, only you can do it. If you keep doing what your doing you'll keep getting what you're getting. If you want things to get better in your life you have to make some effort for that to happen. Now is the time, Good luck Coonman.

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Exactly.

BTW your old job wasn't all that great


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Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6625418
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Re: Employment labor law questions [Re: coonman220] #6625422
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start your own janitorial service....charge what your work is worth.

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