Shooting Does
#6633640
10/05/19 10:00 PM
10/05/19 10:00 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,198 Midlands South Carolina
SGT. C
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,198
Midlands South Carolina
|
I normally don't shoot does until later in the season. But the last few evenings. I've had a nice fatty showing up along with 4 others. The only reason I havn't shot her is. She has a yearling, I try not to shoot does with yearlings, but the yearling was eating in the food plot like hoover on steroids. Plus I need the meat.
So, do you think the yearling would hang with the others until time for it to go on it's on?
Getting old is a fatal mistake
Always looking for reloading componets
I know a beaver or two, because I've seen a beaver or two
|
|
|
Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
#6633642
10/05/19 10:02 PM
10/05/19 10:02 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 34,758 Central, SD
Law Dog
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 34,758
Central, SD
|
I'd wait for a dry one but I don't need the meat if you do then do what's legal go for it.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
|
|
|
Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
#6633661
10/05/19 10:13 PM
10/05/19 10:13 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 6,190 Kansas
Pawnee
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 6,190
Kansas
|
It will be fine if you harvest her, but I’ve got a soft spot and always try and shoot a dry doe.
Everything the left touches it destroys
|
|
|
Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
#6633662
10/05/19 10:14 PM
10/05/19 10:14 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,781 Mi, Mecosta
ambush32
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,781
Mi, Mecosta
|
Take the yearling or two
Better eating
I did this for a few years on my friends farm Early October to get my meat Never hurt the deer population around the farm
Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes...... Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
|
|
|
Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
#6633680
10/05/19 10:29 PM
10/05/19 10:29 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 601 ontario, canada
old243
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 601
ontario, canada
|
It depends on how many does you have in the doe family group, If there are a surplus in the group , I might or might not take one. I would never take the old grandma doe, if you do the pattern that the family follow ,will change. Better to let her die a natural death. Also if you keep a good population of does, there will always be bucks around, checking them out. Personally I have not taken a doe , in at least 20 years, for that reason. My choice is a spike buck or a fawn, I am more a meat hunter, but have shot my share of respectable bucks as well. old243
|
|
|
Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
#6633684
10/05/19 10:34 PM
10/05/19 10:34 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,960 Northern Nevada
Bob
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,960
Northern Nevada
|
I always try to shoot dry does. Even if the dawn is eating vegetation it’s chances of survival go down if she dies, she still protects it from predators and teaches it survival techniques
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
|
|
|
Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
#6633705
10/05/19 10:51 PM
10/05/19 10:51 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 34,758 Central, SD
Law Dog
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 34,758
Central, SD
|
My thinking is not the fawn it's the chance that doe will fawn again where the dry doe might be done fawning, this time of the year does are kicking the ones away that try to nurse.
A dry doe eats as much as another doe that will produce a fawn next year so the dry doe to me so more expendable for all concerned.
Last edited by Law Dog; 10/05/19 11:25 PM.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
|
|
|
Re: Shooting Does
[Re: Law Dog]
#6633721
10/05/19 11:29 PM
10/05/19 11:29 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 6,190 Kansas
Pawnee
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 6,190
Kansas
|
My thinking is not the fawn it's the chance that doe will fawn again where the dry doe might be done fawning, this time of the year does are kicking the ones way that try to nurse.
A dry doe eats as much as another doe that will produce a fawn next year so the dry doe to me so more expendable for all concerned. Yes! Just like raising cattle. Heard of a old cow man that culled every cow that didn’t have a calf at gathering. What if the calf was struck by lightning? “She should have moved him” What if a lion got it? She should have protected him” What if it got sick and died? “Bad genetics and immune systems”
Everything the left touches it destroys
|
|
|
Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
#6633733
10/05/19 11:49 PM
10/05/19 11:49 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 1,539 Saucier, Mississippi Harrison ...
turkn8rtrapper
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 1,539
Saucier, Mississippi Harrison ...
|
Does actually have twins until well into their teens. The old dry doe is a myth. On average almost all white tail does die well before they are unable to have fawns. They die more from natural causes and predation than from hunters.
"Skin that smokewagon and see what happens"
|
|
|
Re: Shooting Does
[Re: turkn8rtrapper]
#6633767
10/06/19 02:56 AM
10/06/19 02:56 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 91 Idaho (north central)
Katcatcher
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 91
Idaho (north central)
|
"Does actually have twins until well into their teens. The old dry doe is a myth. On average almost all white tail does die well before they are unable to have fawns. They die more from natural causes and predation than from hunters."
I MUST ADMIT WHAT turkn8rtrapper SAID IS WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN THE WOODS OVER THE PAST 60 YEARS THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHITETAILS HERE HAVE 2 FAWNS BORN AND THE BIGGEST PERCENTAGE OF THOSE FAWNS ARE KILLED BY PREDATORS BEFORE THEY ARE 5 MONTHS OLD. COYOTES ARE THE PRIMARY WHITETAIL PREDATOR AND KILL THE MOST DEER BECAUSE OF THEIR NUMBERS BUT ONE COUGAR WILL KILL AN AVERAGE OF 50 DEER A YEAR. THAT IS THE REASON I TRAP AND HUNT WITH HOUNDS. IT IS TO TRY TO BALANCE RETURN THE PREDATOR - PREY RATIO! IF WE AS HUMANS WANT TO HUNT DEER WE NEED TO REMOVE ENOUGH PREDATORS SO THE PREY BASE IS NOT DECREASED. IT IS CALLED TAKING CARE OF THE HERD AND THAT IS WHAT A RANCHER DOES, WELL THE ONES THAT STAY IN BUSINESS DO ANYWAY. IT WOULD BE NICE IF SOME OF THE WESTERN BIG GAME MANAGERS WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, ESPECIALLY, WITH OUR MULE DEER . HERDS.
BETTER WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT BY GAME MANAGERS LISTENING TO "REAL" KNOWLEDGEABLE HUNTERS AND TRAPPERS
|
|
|
Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
#6633802
10/06/19 06:51 AM
10/06/19 06:51 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,188 Goldsboro, NC
John C
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,188
Goldsboro, NC
|
Fawns can be weened at 8 weeks. The fawn will be fine. Take your does early.
More Cowbell
|
|
|
|
|