Re: Shooting Does
[Re: pcr2]
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10/07/19 03:26 PM
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Catch22
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disclaimer,i have killed no where near 400 deer. Pic's to prove that?
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Shooting Does
[Re: jbyrd63]
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10/07/19 04:11 PM
10/07/19 04:11 PM
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Fawns can be weened at 8 weeks. The fawn will be fine. Take your does early. I shoot does (part of the leases agreement). BUT NEVER shoot them early. Walking buck bait. If you have does the bucks will come. !!!!!!!! Last weekend of rifle season and Dec muzzleloader is doe days for me. Plus less ticks and to dang hot to work up a deer early ........... You've wasted a bucks time and resources by doing that. You're killing a doe thats been bred, removing not 1, but 3 from the herd. Kill them early, increases buck movement and let the does walk after the rut. 100% effort is returned into the cycle.
"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living; the world owes you nothing; it was here first. " --Mark Twain.
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Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
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10/07/19 04:43 PM
10/07/19 04:43 PM
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jbyrd63
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So rye let me ask you . If someone shoots a fawn wouldn't that be a waste of the DOES time and resources? I can assure you she has more time in raising that fawn than the buck spent breeding her .Plus the vast majority say that you need to shot does to "take them out of the herd". The comment that you are killing 3 is so wrong. If the numbers are low then don't shoot any. But to claim it is better to do it early doesn't always apply. As I said EVERY mature buck I have killed come from a farm that the first shot fired was at him. Hunt a farm with 2 guys that wanted to shoot anything legal. Does , fawns and each killed 6 points. NO big deer were killed even tho had 3 160 plus class deer on the farm. Next year they didn't go back until I killed the 191 that had been there for last 4 years......
Oh Yes you guys with all the wisdom on when to kill them. Not legal to kill them until December in some parts of the state. EXCEPT FOR BOW !!! But not everyone bow hunts..... Plus dang we have been in a drought that broke all records for temps and no rainfall. Who wants to field dress a deer in those conditions when if you wait a month it's cold weather.....
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Re: Shooting Does
[Re: jbyrd63]
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10/07/19 05:33 PM
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gryhkl
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So rye let me ask you . If someone shoots a fawn wouldn't that be a waste of the DOES time and resources? I can assure you she has more time in raising that fawn than the buck spent breeding her .Plus the vast majority say that you need to shot does to "take them out of the herd". The comment that you are killing 3 is so wrong. If the numbers are low then don't shoot any. But to claim it is better to do it early doesn't always apply. As I said EVERY mature buck I have killed come from a farm that the first shot fired was at him. Hunt a farm with 2 guys that wanted to shoot anything legal. Does , fawns and each killed 6 points. NO big deer were killed even tho had 3 160 plus class deer on the farm. Next year they didn't go back until I killed the 191 that had been there for last 4 years......
Oh Yes you guys with all the wisdom on when to kill them. Not legal to kill them until December in some parts of the state. EXCEPT FOR BOW !!! But not everyone bow hunts..... Plus dang we have been in a drought that broke all records for temps and no rainfall. Who wants to field dress a deer in those conditions when if you wait a month it's cold weather.....
Are you not able to buy a bow tag?
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Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
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10/07/19 06:30 PM
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This cracks me up..I’ve been bowhunting since 1982 and have taken a few does in my life and there is no shortage of deer around here....
Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes...... Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
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Re: Shooting Does
[Re: jbyrd63]
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10/07/19 07:51 PM
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Fawns can be weened at 8 weeks. The fawn will be fine. Take your does early. I shoot does (part of the leases agreement). BUT NEVER shoot them early. Walking buck bait. If you have does the bucks will come. !!!!!!!! Last weekend of rifle season and Dec muzzleloader is doe days for me. Plus less ticks and to dang hot to work up a deer early ........... Early season here is WI is a great time to get on bucks. Still in summer patterns and easy to find. No need to wait for the rut.
No Jab.
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Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
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10/07/19 08:10 PM
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I would prefer to shoot does before breeding and plus save deer food resources if you’re going to kill them anyway seems like ga better time for management and to give the remaining deer a better chance for winter survival. Just my opinion
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Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
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10/07/19 09:00 PM
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Private land gun doe hunt this weekend. Slick heads look out, meat season for me. Hope I see a momma and her fawn. Fawn for my freezer, momma for my church's food pantry.
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Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
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10/07/19 09:42 PM
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Holy crap. It's legal and you have a doe tag, kill her if you want to!. Easy peazy. I've been through every scenario when it come to this topic and bottom line is, it makes no matter!. The only time I don't like shooting does is right at go time. early- mid November for no other reason than I don't want to disturb the woods.
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You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Shooting Does
[Re: SGT. C]
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10/07/19 10:21 PM
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Here, in the southeast, deer numbers are generally high. On the large recreational farms, high fenced and otherwise, the harvest of bucks is very limited and likewise the harvest of does can even be lower. Some of the properties where hunting clubs exist, have some doe harvesting regulations or stipulations. Many that are hunted by family and friends, the buck to doe ratio gets really skewed. Quality deer management recommendations are 1:1, trophy hunters sometimes manage at a 3 bucks per doe. Many landowners want to see big numbers of deer unless they have an understanding of QDM. I have been taking a group of around 10-12 trusted friends on some of these large (1,000 - 3,000+ acre) farms and helping landowners, that understand QDM and have an interest in growing bigger bucks, to thin their deer by taking large numbers of does. One high fence farm that we have hunted for several years, still produced 34 does for our group one weekend last year and the farm manager has already contacted me about coming back this year. I know that things are different up north and out west but here the best time to kill does is anytime you get a chance. In Tennessee the daily limit for antlerless deer is 3 per day from the beginning of bow season till the end of gun season. Some of the other southern states may even be more liberal. Working around other guests hunting or whatever puts most of our doe hunts around the last month of season. If there was a significant doe harvest during bow season, the bucks would have to move more to find the does that are still available.
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Re: Shooting Does
[Re: jbyrd63]
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10/08/19 08:47 AM
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gryhkl
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And gryhky EVERYONE DOESN"T BOW HUNT
I know that. But it seemed he was complaining that those who do bow hunt get an early doe season. If that's the case, and somebody wants to hunt early doe, buy a tag and hunt with a bow.
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