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Scents for deer hunting #6635165
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Does anyone find commercial odor eliminators and deer scents to be useful? Do they really cover-up or eliminate human odors?

And what about using a skunk-based trapping lure, like Gusto? Or maybe a castor-based lure, like Backbreaker. Castor is supposed to be an attractant for various kinds of animals.

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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635176
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your not going to move a deer very far. also if the wind is blowing the castor smell toward the deer where is your scent going?


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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635179
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What about covering up your own human scent?

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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635180
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you ever been next to somebody that sprayed on more deodorant instead of bathing? I suspect its like that.


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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635188
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I use EverCalm at my stand base as a cover scent and Dead Down Wind as human scent eliminator.

Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635196
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Originally Posted by James
Does anyone find commercial odor eliminators and deer scents to be useful? Do they really cover-up or eliminate human odors?

And what about using a skunk-based trapping lure, like Gusto? Or maybe a castor-based lure, like Backbreaker. Castor is supposed to be an attractant for various kinds of animals.

Jim



I have very smelly feet after only a day or so of wearing my shoes stink I mean really really stink the kind of stink you can smell from several feet away but a squirt of dead down wind and they smell like new shoes

Now I donít know if thatís proof that human Oder eliminaters work or not but I use them all the time if just to not offend myself from the smell of my own shoes

I do know that I have had several deer approach from downwind that did not appear to detect me, in fact last year the deer I shot was at 4 paces and came from downwind, the reason he got so close before I shot him is that in that direction was a marshy area of tall grass and I just could not see him till he came out of that tall grass into the open space I was standing in

If nothing else it gives you conifidence while we think helps in those sometimes long waits on stand where you might begin to doubt if you should stay or move to a different area or not





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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635212
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stay downwind or stay home


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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635213
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I Use Deer Dander on my Boots and legs when walkjng in. It is both a cover scent and Deer investigate it.

I have had deer come in to the stump I had castor on While bear hunting

The one that is the hardest and Most dont realize is Our Breath. I was helping an Old friend hang stands a few 15 years ago and after 20 years of deer hunting with Him I finally said. " why do you spit from a deer stand indtead of into a bottle?" His response was " Skol Long cut- Wintergreen ...why do you think I kill mor deer than you all these years"

So I didnt take up the "Chaw" but almost always have 5 or 6 Wintergreen life savers for a normal morning or evening sit. Many times I believe it made the difference.


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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: pcr2] #6635221
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Originally Posted by pcr2
stay downwind or stay home


Yep


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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: 330-Trapper] #6635227
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Evercalm is about the only product I use for scent control, and Copenhagen in my mouth. One of the guys I hunt with swears that the Copenhagen is why I get smelled less than them. But I ALWAYS hunt the wind



Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635247
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I keep an eye on my cigarette smoke so I know which way the wind is going

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Originally Posted by Doug66
I keep an eye on my cigarette smoke so I know which way the wind is going

my dad was the same way. grin


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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635278
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doug 66 my buddy does the same thing but he does hunt the right wind and kills a lot of deer not necessarily the big deer some are after but the guys I know that hunt are meat hunters just like me. don't much care about horns.

Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: Doug66] #6635280
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Originally Posted by Doug66
I keep an eye on my cigarette smoke so I know which way the wind is going

Hahahaaaa you sound like my brother in law.


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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635281
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we have 17 ladder stands so there's always a place to hunt the right wind and no commotion gettin in and out.


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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635311
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My experience with formulated deer scents is at times it holds a curiosity factor for younger juvenile deer, but most always raises a red flag of caution with mature adult does. Iíve never seen mature bucks pay much attention to it during the rut and pre rut. Theyíre usually hot on the trail of real thing and donít pay much attention to the synthetic stuff. I canít tell you how many times Iíve had curious little 2 1/2 yr olds come in to synthetic scents only to have a wary old doe come in and smell it and stand there and stop and stare and blow. I gave up on wasting money on that stuff back in my teens. Hunt where the mature does are hanging out and you got the best scent ever. Like others mentioned, hunt the right wind as well.


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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635312
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Yep, deer scents work. I do seminars and talks on deer scents and cover scents. How to use them, where to use them and why to use them. So, YES, they work, IF the hunter understands HOW to use them, WANTS to use them and knows what the responses from the deer will be. I started making Deer scents back in 1990. And the reason I started to make them was, Get ready for this reason, TO PROVE they didn't work!!!! That's right. LOL I didn't believe in deer scents back then, yet I was making baits and lures for trapping and ADC work LOL Jeff, From JR and sons said to me, (He was just getting started) after a little discussion on the phone one evening, Ron why don't you go prove what you think. Go out and do EVERYTHING you can to make a deer scent, then go and do EVERYTHING you can to make it work. (that last sentence has real meaning if the person thinks about it) He said if you do everything you can to make one, and then make it work and then, if it doesn't work, then you know you did everything you could and you can shout it from the mountain tops deer scents are a hoax and rip off, but if it works then you will have some of the best products on the market. What I learned from that was deer scent do work and how deer scents work and why they work along with when they work. The best method of scent application is dragging and is used the least by the least amount of hunters. The least successful method of application, yet used by most hunters is hanging. I won't do the whys here since I am not doing a seminar LOL The second best method of application and is being used by more hunters every year is mock scraps. I just gave the Mock scrape demo at this past FTA convention in VA. Mock scrapes can be dug in which I prefer or drippers hung which will in time produce the mock scrape as the deer paw the ground. Just like many of our sets that fresh dug dirt and scent results in attractiveness to the fur-bearing animals we target, the same is true with the deer if the scrape is in the right location and WHERE the deer wants to be. Sounds a lot like trapping doesn't it. Cover scents work indeed, but not the way most think they do. Just like many of the old-timer trappers use to use a cover scent also way back in the 70's, but they didn't think of it that way either, They would spray fox urine on the hip boots or leather boots when walking up to the set. Again sounds like deer scent and trapping scent usage have a lot in common. Matter fact my talks are titled using deer scents with a trappers mindset. here is a podcast on mock scrapes some may want to listen to https://www.talkshoe.com/episode/4727243 or https://www.talkshoe.com/show/rednecks-pride-outdoor

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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635321
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Lol, I sometimes smoke a cigar when sitting at a moose-calling station. Not to judge the wind so much as to discourage the bugs. I justify it by reminding myself that a lighted tobacco stick is just a burning plant. Do you all think smoke alarms deer, if only faint?

I don't rely on the smoke to check the wind because I hunt moose in a forest of rolling hills where the wind gusts a lot in different directions. Kind of like the habitat of south and east Ohio, only the trees and underbrush belonging to different species. And, in my experience, a bull moose may come in from any direction, usually not the one you're watching.

A friend of mine saves the urine from his kill, usually a bull in various stages of rut, and then puts it on his coat and hat to mask his scent.

Speaking of which, what do you do up in a deer blind when you have to urinate? Let go over the side and don't worry about the urine scent? Or pee into a plastic jug taken along for that purpose?

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Re: Scents for deer hunting [Re: James] #6635332
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I am not much of a deer hunter. Love to hunt, love the meat, but with limited time I have always picked trapping. Bill Nelson's mink lure, a name that began with an A
used to get a lot of reaction from white tail deer. I bought the first of it from Nelson then Mr. Laugman (sp). I never saw the same reaction with any other lures. When used in a pocket set with a fairly low bank, I often noted visitation above the pocket. Deer sign could often be seen in the snow and in dirt where they would paw the ground.
Have not used mink lure like that in many years. Just thought I would share that experience.



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Like most guys I've tried both type scents, Sometimes I THINK there's a response, but I hunt the wind so the scent near me doesn't help, The few times I've seen it work a little is to put some on a branch where I expect to see a deer from my stand as I walk in, mostly it's just to stop them for a couple extra seconds, sometimes it works. I did have a young buck track me step for step once, I had doe urine soaked pads on the soles of my boots....It's all too much trouble most of the time...for me. I'd say 99% of all the deer I've taken have been with no urine or cover scents, and I've taken a lot.,

I have a friend that can't pass a bottle , or quart , of doe urine in a shop without buying it. He spreads it around like he's irrigating a crop, He doesnt shoot any more deer then I do, lol

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