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Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: J Staton] #6636085
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The BBC ????? its like the CNN of the UK

We will see if Trump keeps his word.

Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: yukonjeff] #6636106
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
The BBC ????? its like the CNN of the UK

We will see if Trump keeps his word.


If he does it will be the first time. He thinks he's God as he flies by the seat of his pants right into a catastrophe.

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Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: J Staton] #6636130
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Another one ..... whistle


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Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: Rats!] #6636131
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Originally Posted by Rats!
Trumpy Bear is just performing his old tricks again. Like a schoolboy who says "look, your shoe is untied". He wants to distract attention from the real trouble he is in regarding impeachment proceedings at the expense of a truly explosive setting which could free thousands of IS fighters who are in detention camps.


Your username goes along perfectly with your ignorant comment.

Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: yukonjeff] #6636138
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
The BBC ????? its like the CNN of the UK

We will see if Trump keeps his word.



Are you saying there is not the start of a Turkish Invasion of northern Syria by Erdogan's Forces

along with artillery shelling & airstrikes of Kurdish held territory ?

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Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: J Staton] #6636155
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So how would you experts handle 70k ISIS pow, 10k expat ISIS that want to return to their homes in the EU and other places and 2 million Suni Refugees in Turkey that ASAD ran out. The Kurds cants keep them contained and the turks do not want them in their country. Asad and Russia are moving north and the Iranians are reving up their engines also. Last year the Kurds were negostiating with ASAD according to the news.. Its all not good, and we held the peace with 50 supermen.

Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: J Staton] #6636158
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All I have heard is they can not be trusted. JMO


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Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: J Staton] #6636161
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Turkey is moving across the border and some kurds have already been killed. I believe they said 2.

Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: Getting There] #6636183
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Originally Posted by Getting There
All I have heard is they can not be trusted. JMO


Who ?

Trump, Erdogan,, or the Kurds ?

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Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: J Staton] #6636263
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Rats I would appreciate if you didn't attempt to make this political in an attempt to get this thread axed. This has nothing to do with false accusations to try and remove a duly elected President.
My whole thought was to try to determine if the Kurds are enough of an ally to militarily defend if attacked by Turkey, ISIS, etc. My personnel opinion is that the U.S. military's job is to protect and defend the U.S. Not so much to be the world's police force. Although I do believe we should, if a country is a true ally, help defend it against unprovoked aggression.


You tell him not to get political when all he did was express his opinion(one that is shared by many-even republicans). One of the next poster made it political by calling him a liberal. .....I suppose, when one considers trump's habit of name-calling, we should not be surprised when his followers use the same tactic any time somebody thinks differently than they do.

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I agree with ND FTA. I was on highway between Basra and Baghdad with the 101st Airborne during Desert Storm as a sapper with the 187th Infantry Brigade. We were friendly with the Kurds in the north and they fought along side of of the allies. When we pulled out because we met our military objective of freeing Kuwait, we left them to be punished by Saddam. Then the Kurds helped the U.S. again during the next invasion. They are a good fighting force but knew they would have no peace with Saddam still in power. I think we may be hanging them out again to fend for themselves after we used them to fight with us. I feel sorry for them the way we used them and left them. I don't have an answer to the problems going on there now or how the Kurds should be treated now, but in my experience they were brave fighters on our side. I spent 11 years as a combat engineer (12B), five with 101st Airborne Division retired as an E-7 SFC for those that may want to know. Just my two cents worth.

Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: gryhkl] #6636268
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Originally Posted by J Staton
Rats I would appreciate if you didn't attempt to make this political in an attempt to get this thread axed. This has nothing to do with false accusations to try and remove a duly elected President.
My whole thought was to try to determine if the Kurds are enough of an ally to militarily defend if attacked by Turkey, ISIS, etc. My personnel opinion is that the U.S. military's job is to protect and defend the U.S. Not so much to be the world's police force. Although I do believe we should, if a country is a true ally, help defend it against unprovoked aggression.


You tell him not to get political when all he did was express his opinion(one that is shared by many-even republicans). One of the next poster made it political by calling him a liberal. .....I suppose, when one considers trump's habit of name-calling, we should not be surprised when his followers use the same tactic any time somebody thinks differently than they do.



And yet You hold the record( responsible) for " the most axed threads "

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Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: J Staton] #6636269
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What do you think the Kurds will do with the prison full of ISIS members?

Fine move by the guy who claims to have “great and unmatched wisdom” crazy

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Could this have anything to do with it?

From Newsweek.

As the world reacted to America's sudden abandonment of its most trusted and effective local allies, a tweet from Trump's daughter Ivanka resurfaced, detailing a relevant conflict of interest regarding relations with Turkey.

"Thank you Prime Minister Erdogan for joining us yesterday to celebrate the launch of #TrumpTowers Istanbul!" Ivanka wrote in April 2012. The construction—made up of two conjoined towers—is one of seven current Trump Towers locations
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Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: J Staton] #6636285
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You just can't help yourself can you?


Disclaimer: I am currently drunk, yet still confident that this makes sense.
Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: J Staton] #6636287
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ND FTA / lestan 101 have pretty much summed it up. When I was up north in Irbil, the Kurds could not have been more friendly, for what they had. They just want to be left alone to raise their family's. And this talk of them being Muslim, I've seen mostly Christian Kurds, even worshipped in one of their Christian churches. They are a proud people who talk about their family every chance they get and want to know about your family in return. I just hope they do well in the future.
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What do you think will happen with the ISIS prisoners under Kurd control?
The deed is done. Was it a good decision?

Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: Catch22] #6636294
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Originally Posted by Catch22
You just can't help yourself can you?


He can’t.


Eh...wot?

Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: J Staton] #6636295
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My thoughts are the Kurds being good fighters, probably will not tolerate them.

Re: Iraq Veterans...Kurds [Re: walleyed] #6636297
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