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California adopts nation's broadest gun seizure la #6637774
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California adopts nation's broadest gun seizure laws

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-expands-gun-seizure-law

One of the bills, which expands a so-called "red flag" law to allow co-workers, employers and educators to seek gun violence restraining orders against firearms owners they fear are a danger to themselves and others, was vetoed twice by Newsom's predecessor, Jerry Brown.

Newsom also signed a companion bill allowing the gun violence restraining orders to last one and five years, although the gun owners could petition to end those restrictions earlier. The bill also allows judges to issue search warrants at the same time as they grant the orders. The warrants can be used immediately if the gun owners are served with the relinquishment orders but fail to turn over the firearms or ammunition.

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I was reading that earlier. It's scary. California needs to leave the union.

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I am not surprised, this law is moving across the country, by this time next year most state will have some kind of red flag law. It is just getting started. JMO


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Re: California adopts nation's broadest gun seizure la [Re: Ray B] #6637831
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Needs to be taken to the Supreme Court. No way it can stand,. None of these Red flag laws, they are all unconstitutional on many levels.


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Time for a SCOTUS case on violations of civil liberties and a multi million dollar punitive judgment. Bet it wouldn’t be hard to find a good pro 2amendment legal eagle that would work pro bono or a portion of the settlement.


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I think that soon the only way Americans will maintain their God given and Constitutional Right to bare arms is if they show they are willing to use them.

The Right to Free Speech is going away too.

Keith

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Out of control homelessness, people defecating on the streets, out of control drug addiction and it seems to be encouraged there, millions of illegals harbored by the state and local governments and now they are going to come and take away your means of self defense.....sounds like a democrat utopia. All the liberals that I know and deal with are morons and this is another example of that type of mindset.


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Originally Posted by Finster
Needs to be taken to the Supreme Court. No way it can stand,. None of these Red flag laws, they are all unconstitutional on many levels.

Bingo!,,only problem is how long this all takes.Maye Trump will have another conservative in the SCOTUS by then.


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Originally Posted by Getting There
I am not surprised, this law is moving across the country, by this time next year most state will have some kind of red flag law. It is just getting started. JMO

Learn where your legislators live and pay them a visit if necessary.

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So what happens when the liberals gain control of the Supreme Court and pass extremely restrictive bans on firearms? It's going to happen soon because we have allowed the liberals to gain control of most US education and media. Those liberal appointed judges will support the unconstitutional firearms restrictions. Just because a liberal Supreme Court then rules restrictive bans are constitutional does not mean they truly are. Good, true Americans are going to have to do things they don't want to do or allow America, as it should be, to die.

Keith

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Originally Posted by KeithC
So what happens when the liberals gain control of the Supreme Court

Keith

They are having a bit of a problem with that at the moment thanks to TRUMP.Put him in for 4 more years and he can put possibly two more in there.


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I don't understand. How can things be so bad, when Trump has been in power for almost three years?

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Too many democrats with a pulse.

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Originally Posted by James
I don't understand. How can things be so bad, when Trump has been in power for almost three years?

Jim


Things arent so bad. But YOUR 2A rights are under attack and you make jokes?



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promoting his own agenda at any cost like the rest.









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after the one year or five tear thing is over does the guy get his guns back or do they all end up in hands of law enforcement officers and the owner told they are being kept as evidence?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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those laws are in place for only one reason. to make the murder rate rise and increase the demand to repeal the second.


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Originally Posted by James
I don't understand. How can things be so bad, when Trump has been in power for almost three years?

Jim

You might note what party is in control in california


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Originally Posted by KeithC
So what happens when the liberals gain control of the Supreme Court and pass extremely restrictive bans on firearms?
Keith


The country will Balkanize. The rate we are going the country will not remain in one piece. If you ever wanted to take a cross country road trip do it now, dont procrastinate.

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