Re: Bartering
[Re: Pike River]
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10/16/19 06:31 PM
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Gubment hates us bartering.They cant tax it !!
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Re: Bartering
[Re: Eric Yeatman]
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10/16/19 06:37 PM
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I don’t I have always gotten the short end of the stick myself I think thats what most people are scared of and thats really unfortunate. People always trying to get over on another. A good trade both people leave with somethimg different but of similar value and both are satisfied and with clean consciences.
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Re: Bartering
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10/16/19 06:58 PM
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For those that have a hard time dealing with NAFA or local buyers, Montgomery Fur, in Ogden, Utah will barter fur for supplies. Contact them for details, or see their catalog.
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Re: Bartering
[Re: upstateNY]
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10/16/19 07:08 PM
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Gubment hates us bartering.They cat tax it !! You are required to declare the "Fair Market Value" of your bartered items--services, for tax purposes. To do less is breaking the law. If you don't pay tax on bartered items-services you are a criminal.
My name ain't Keith
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Re: Bartering
[Re: Pike River]
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10/16/19 07:17 PM
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When I used to raise and train beagles and German shorthaired pointers, people would frequently offer to trade me firearms for pups and started dogs. I got lots of very nice firearms that way. Occasionally people would offer to trade me some real duds. I just turned them downs. None of the guns were ever reported as stolen. I had them checked. Twice, I had people offer to trade me snowmobiles for pups, I turned them down, because most Winters here there are only a few days you could use one. People frequently offered to trade me horses for pups. I have no use for a horse and don't want one.
People very frequently offer to trade birds and poultry to me for the pigeons and poultry I sell. I almost always turn them down because of the fear of disease. I do a strict quarantine on all new birds. Last Spring someone offered to trade me the prettiest kitten I have ever seen for a pair of chickens. It was some fancy Himalayan breed of cat. I had no real use for it and did not want another house cat. It was so beautiful, I actually kind of regret not getting it.
I traded a dozen button quail for about $450.00 worth of used tires and wheels, which would have been about $1800.00 new.
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Re: Bartering
[Re: KeithC]
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10/16/19 07:22 PM
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I traded a dozen button quail for about $450.00 worth of used tires and wheels, which would have been about $1800.00 new. Keith And we can assume you declared all this on your taxes, correct?
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Re: Bartering
[Re: Sullivan K]
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10/16/19 07:29 PM
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I traded a dozen button quail for about $450.00 worth of used tires and wheels, which would have been about $1800.00 new. Keith And we can assume you declared all this on your taxes, correct? Of course he did and everyone else on this thread can be assumed to have filed appropriately.....except for pcr2.
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Re: Bartering
[Re: Eric Yeatman]
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10/16/19 07:30 PM
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I don’t I have always gotten the short end of the stick myself Funny, that's what pcr2's wife says. Bahaha.
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Re: Bartering
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10/16/19 07:43 PM
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I trade goods and services pretty regularly. I recently traded am older Kubota garden tractor and snow-thrower attachment that needed some work for a nice Gravely tractor.
I clean a neighbor's chimney four or five times a year and he supplies me with a good amount of firewood.
I also work quite a bit with my landscaper when he gets bigger jobs. I recently used my Kubota back-hoe to tear down a series of commercial greenhouses for him. I dug a hole and buried the debris then graded the area so his guys could seed it. We trade hours. i keep track of everything. In return for my machine services some of his crew will help me out when I'm busy, especially in the winter when they aren't swamped with work.
And yes, I pay taxes on all of it.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Bartering
[Re: Sullivan K]
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10/16/19 07:49 PM
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Gubment hates us bartering.They cat tax it !! You are required to declare the "Fair Market Value" of your bartered items--services, for tax purposes. To do less is breaking the law. If you don't pay tax on bartered items-services you are a criminal. Hahahaaaaaa of course Mr.IRS police man.
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Re: Bartering
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10/16/19 08:02 PM
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Hahahaaaaaa of course Mr.IRS police man. So when does it become alright to become just a little bit dishonest? If you are going to steal from the government then is it alright to steal a trap? Both are a crime, are they not? Stealing a trap is not a major event that is going to lane you in prison. So I guess it is not that big of a crime. Breaking the law is breaking the law. Is it like being a little bit pregnant? You are either a thief or you are not.
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Re: Bartering
[Re: Sullivan K]
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10/16/19 08:06 PM
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Hahahaaaaaa of course Mr.IRS police man. So when does it become alright to become just a little bit dishonest? If you are going to steal from the government then is it alright to steal a trap? Both are a crime, are they not? Stealing a trap is not a major event that is going to lane you in prison. So I guess it is not that big of a crime. Breaking the law is breaking the law. Is it like being a little bit pregnant? You are either a thief or you are not. Boy oh boy. I work Program Integrity and I dont even go around accusing people all willy nilly. Chill guy....we're all reporting appropriately. A good barter there wont be much to report since you expensed something of same market value of what you received.
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