Deer scrape?
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10/20/19 07:19 PM
10/20/19 07:19 PM
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goldnut
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Since im quite possibly the worst deer hunter in PA if not the country, I have a question for ya all experts. I set up a new stand today in what I thought looked like a good location. several trails coming together along some very thick cover. After getting into the stand I noticed 2 scrapes about 15 yards away. Should I drip some Doe in heat on the scrapes and when is the best time of the day to hunt this area? Or should I hang one of the wicks in a tree? Any advice appreciated and if you need more info let me know. Thanks Ken
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/20/19 07:26 PM
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A big no to peeing on it. Best time is when wind is from them to you. Sounds like a good spot, good luck.
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/20/19 07:31 PM
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I'm a less is better guy. Sneaky looking trails along edges of changing bush like you describe, scrapes all the better, sit be patient, shoot deer. In out unseen un scented.
Osky
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/20/19 08:16 PM
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The Possum Man
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Put up some cams and see when the deer are moving through. I like to hunt within sight of a scrape but I have never seen a mature buck use one. Seen a few little spikes and such. The big ones seem to run them late at night or just randomly during the day. Never been able to pattern one enough to hunt over a scrape. But that is deer down here, yours may act different, a cam will tell the tale. I have noticed that after a good rain the scrapes are generally freshened up within 24hrs.
"If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough"
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/20/19 08:18 PM
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The Possum Man
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IMO leave the pee at the house, its a gimmick to sell to buck hunters. With the trail cams, the only ones i consider are the blackout versions that emit no visible light when they go off.
"If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough"
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/20/19 09:41 PM
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I would not go back and put a camera up. I would not go back to that spot again until the wind is in your favor and your hunting that spot. You were in there once. Don't stink it up anymore. There is a reason why lots of people have their best luck on first time sits in a spot. Put a camera up to soak after your tagged out or after the season.
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/20/19 09:46 PM
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I'm in the same category as you when it comes to deer hunting. I set up to travels routes but I struggle with any success. I sat in a blind last night for the first time this year. I thought it might be a good spot but wasn't sure what to expect. Just before last legal light I seen a good deer coming down from the pines. I then heard something but couldn't see where it was coming from. I finally spotted what I heard and here was a 150 class walking 30 yards from me. I had time to range him but didn't have time to take a good archery shot at him.
If I were you I would sit there a few nights and see where the action spots are. I have never used any attraction scent/lure or what ever all those products that are on the market. We also can't use trail cameras either so scouting/patterns/routes/habits are what I use to help where to set up at. I have only harvested 3 Whitetail deer in my life.
Learning their patterns and habits is what works for me. I'm no expert just what I do.
Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/20/19 11:18 PM
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My go to is scrape hunting and has been for many years of bow hunting... I don't hunt field edge scrapes unless there's standing corn and heavy cover...
Sounds like your in a good area heavy cover and runways intersecting... Them scrapes are there for a reason communication and in that area because off doe traffic is congested.. It's easy if you have hunted scrapes that are productive, if there's many runways that intersect you'll most likely always find scrapes and if in good cover ya better hunt it..The home buck located the scrapes there because of high traffic..
I wouldn't put nothing in it it's doing its job by the deer anyways...its like putting apples under an apple tree that is producing apples its not needed..
I hunt scrapes in the morning just because I work 2nd shift most of the time.. I've learned to be in my tree 1-1.5 hours before daylight, around here a lot of the times bucks will enter these areas early and move on somewhere close by and enter the scrape area when does come through that's why I only hunt scrapes around heavy cover which allows deer to move in and out during daylight conditions..I've shot probably80% of my deer with a bow hunting over scrapes it's exciting when they heat up. Pre rut is the best time once full rut is in the scrapes get used very little...
Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes...... Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/21/19 12:14 AM
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Doe in heat on the scrape this early is a big. NO. Give it a week. If anything put buck urine, pre orbital, or buck tarsal scent on it and if you do be extremely careful to not touch anything with your bare hand especially the licking branch and be scent free. I wouldn’t put a camera on the scrape. Also sounds like a place I wouldn’t hunt until the wind is right for me or I’m on the downwind side of that bedding mid next week till the end of season.
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/21/19 12:35 AM
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Makes no sense to put anything in an active scrape..why? If it has multiple licking branches it's getting used by several deer..
From my own experience if you wait for the right wind for get it, hunting down wind of the scrape is always good but I've had deer from all directions come in no matter the wind, it's a crap shoot... So you get winded go to the next scrape area..on a given year I'll have a dozen scrape areas that I setup in the spring some are active some not...if you wait for the stars to line up its to late the pre rut is over and better focus on bedding areas or wait for the post rut and some scrapes will become active again...
Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes...... Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/21/19 01:18 AM
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Do you all think the buck that made the scrape thinks to himself I'll come back to check THIS scrape. Or, if he passes back by on the same route the same buck checks the scrape and may freshen it up. My point being I think if you find several scrapes in the same area there is a good chance that buck will be back to THAT general area. I have watched bucks make scrapes, but I can't remember any deer coming up and checking one, buck or doe. Not saying deer don't check them occasionally.
Last edited by Scout1; 10/21/19 01:19 AM.
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/21/19 05:39 AM
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another 10 days and you can crap in the middle of the scrape if ya want and wouldn't hurt.patience grasshopper-the rut is close-real close i think this year.
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Re: Deer scrape?
[Re: goldnut]
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10/21/19 09:20 AM
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Three kind of scrapes. Field edge..don't waste your time......random middle of woods, don't waste your time. Near bedding by more scrapes and lots of rubs. Winner.
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