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NAFA Speaks again .... #6646848
10/23/19 11:36 AM
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Newark, Ohio 78 years
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New just in … 10/23/2019


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Have been trapping 72 years … may be LAST one.
Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6647372
10/23/19 10:50 PM
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Yes I received this memo today as many NAFA/WFCS did I am sure.
I want to thank Paul for helping keep this issue on the forum and up to date. Whether one ships fur there or not or does not like the auction house or houses and or system it is a critically important aspect of the USA ranch and fur industry and we all have stakes in the ending outcome(s). For many it seems this good, bad or ugly situation is all about ranch fur, which from a numbers and revenue stream it most assuredly is, but as a shipper of wild fur I have benefited from having local pickup and drop off places that keep my costs low and my options more flexible. With so many disappointed in how this situation has unfolded and may play out it may well be a good time for more state organizations to start some auctions to see if more new buyers want to enter into the game. Not really a bad time to start when one can start with limited cash or leverage and somewhat lower risks of downside movement. $20,000 buys a lot more WI wild fur than it did 5 years ago

Bryce

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6647407
10/24/19 01:02 AM
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we still need end users to get anywhere,bottom line.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6647410
10/24/19 02:41 AM
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Has anybody had any problem with the reissued checks. The original checks bounced. I have four accounts worth of reissued checks. I have not had time to deposit my checks. All the new checks are just copies of the old checks. My bank says they are good checks and they will be honored just like the old ones. Problem is, I was charged a fee for the check bouncing.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6647532
10/24/19 07:34 AM
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Does anyone know if the old checks good now?


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: don Wolf] #6647586
10/24/19 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by don Wolf
Has anybody had any problem with the reissued checks. The original checks bounced. I have four accounts worth of reissued checks. I have not had time to deposit my checks. All the new checks are just copies of the old checks. My bank says they are good checks and they will be honored just like the old ones. Problem is, I was charged a fee for the check bouncing.


The guy on the phone told me to send in a copy of the receipts showing a charge and they would cover that as well. Luckily I didn't get a charge, but I also havent got a new check either...

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6647589
10/24/19 08:40 AM
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Okay... everyone else may know who Saga Furs is, but I have no idea … would someone please let use, that don't know, understand? thank you.

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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6647615
10/24/19 09:22 AM
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Just google " SAGA fur Auction"


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6647620
10/24/19 09:28 AM
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From their website

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Saga Furs Oyj is a full service auction house with the broadest selection of superior furs from strictly regulated European sources. Our efforts focus on supporting sustainable sources of European fur sold at four international auctions each year, and then marketing Saga® Mink, Fox and Finnraccoon on a global scale.


Wild fur is not quite their thing, but then one could argue that it wasn't quite NAFA's thing either. wink


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: mainer] #6647643
10/24/19 10:02 AM
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Thank you Mainer … now I know to stay even farther away from NAFA …

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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6647646
10/24/19 10:06 AM
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Soo looking over their website I don't see any talk about wild fur. I'm assuming NAFA is still accepting fur for future actions correct? Anybody heard which auction house will be selling what? SAGA farm furs and NAFA wild furs maybe?

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10/24/19 01:09 PM
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Fellas at this time, you would have to be brain dead to send any fur to NAFA. I just talked to Brian at NAFA and he was not sounding to happy. I would really be skeptical about sending one pelt to Nafa, until some of us dealers , at least get our money from NAFA. It really don't look good at this time. Unless SAGA can say they will be interested in handling wild fur, I would not send anything to NAFA. I have enough fur at NAFA left to sell and they now owe me enough money, that they will have to prove to me they are fluid once again. Things do not look good at NAFA fellas.

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Beav, Boco and BBWI aren't the least bit skeptical.

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10/24/19 02:10 PM
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Thank you Don on your insight. Good advice from a seasoned and well respected fur buyer. Who still is in business today buying and selling fur.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: don Wolf] #6647789
10/24/19 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by don Wolf
Fellas at this time, you would have to be brain dead to send any fur to NAFA. I just talked to Brian at NAFA and he was not sounding to happy. I would really be skeptical about sending one pelt to Nafa, until some of us dealers , at least get our money from NAFA. It really don't look good at this time. Unless SAGA can say they will be interested in handling wild fur, I would not send anything to NAFA. I have enough fur at NAFA left to sell and they now owe me enough money, that they will have to prove to me they are fluid once again. Things do not look good at NAFA fellas.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6647790
10/24/19 02:18 PM
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Something else to think about that wolf didn't mention is that Brian is leaving nafa . that should also be he knows something.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6647822
10/24/19 03:48 PM
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Brian is leaving nafa ?when ? I email him.month ago an told me things about same as last season, they may not even handle wild fur ?

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10/24/19 04:01 PM
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i think there was another thread about Nafa coonman.not good


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6647833
10/24/19 04:04 PM
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As I see, NAFA was for some country buyers the market and for some the competition. I would think a buyer who sticks his neck out to start paying last year prices this Fall might not be around come Fall 2021.

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Alot small country buyers could not afford to wait months for auction pay, alot them go though groenwold i heard

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