Re: Hospital bills and bankruptcy.
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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doctors are not like your vet or dentist. by law they can only bill what you say you can do . Don't go bankrupt. One dollar a month has to be taken. I didn't know that and stretched myself too thin when the billing office asked me "what can I pay" when the ex had cancer but I paid. Because I was being "honorable". They will ask you what you can pay . I learned this from someone who is a consultant in medical billing. She hates insurance companies.
edit, if you say one dollar a month is all you can pay
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Re: Hospital bills and bankruptcy.
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10/25/19 02:27 AM
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The attorneys have a lot to do with the high bills and are those who make the laws and who and how to bill, including the affordable care act. Doctors are getting sued non-stop and so our hospitals and just about every other business. Americans are hobbled by lawsuits.
This. Defensive medicine is expensive. When my 99 year old, great, great aunt Goldie died back in the eighties, my grandparents were charged for a pregnancy test the hospital gave her as part of their standard procedures for female patients. Keith
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Re: Hospital bills and bankruptcy.
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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One reason hospitals and doctors charge as much as they do is because of the premiums on the insurance they have to buy. So many people out there just waiting for any reason to sue anyone and make a quick buck, doctors are an easy target.
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Re: Hospital bills and bankruptcy.
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How can there be a problem? The Affordable Care Act passed. Now that's funny right there. And Yeah, you can keep your Dr. Too. anyone who voted for that guy should feel ashamed and anti american. At least Obama tried to deal with the problem. Orange man promised a health care plan to "cover everybody," but he hasn't done squat to enact it. Jim
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Re: Hospital bills and bankruptcy.
[Re: white marlin]
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too busy defending himself from fake dossiers, fake "whistle blowers", etc.
and Obama tried to deal with it by fundamentally transforming us into a socialist system. Boy that’s the truth. Just out of curiosity who knows where and why health insurance (as a job benefit) became ingrained in our society?
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Re: Hospital bills and bankruptcy.
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too busy defending himself from fake dossiers, fake "whistle blowers", etc.
and Obama tried to deal with it by fundamentally transforming us into a socialist system. Boy that’s the truth. Just out of curiosity who knows where and why health insurance (as a job benefit) became ingrained in our society? I believe it was WWII, companies had a hard time getting workers, Gov't didn't let them increase wages so they offered health Ins. as a benefit. Maybe wrong on when but I'm pretty sure about the wages/benefit angle On a side note I have no Health Ins. When I go to Dr/hospital they knock 45% off the cost right away. I had an employee that was paying $5/month on a Hospital bill. She tried to negotiate a lower price the Hospital said no way, pay full bill, so she only pays $5/month to keep them off her back.
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Re: Hospital bills and bankruptcy.
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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10/25/19 08:47 PM
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The whole thing is set up for the fail, something needs to be done.
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The whole thing is set up for the fail, something needs to be done. if you are talking about ObamaCare, you are absolutely correct! {and, I'll dig up the quotes from Obama, Gruber, et al; if I have to prove it to anyone) they knew they couldn't get single-payer passed (their wet dream); so they designed O-Care to fail, so people would then demand they "do something", and voila! Socialism! and DirtyD is correct about how health insurance became part of employment compensation (WW2, wage controls, competition in that environment for workers) it was only a matter of time until pricing got out of control, as somebody ELSE was paying the bill.
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Re: Hospital bills and bankruptcy.
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Obama care was designed to fail. The goal was to make healthcare so difficult that the people would beg the government to take it over. It's working. The federal government already owns the country's largest industry - education. They want to own the second largest - healthcare. Then they will work on whatever the third largest is.
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Re: Hospital bills and bankruptcy.
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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Dirty D you got everything perfect! WWII started the whole thing, and it’s been down hill ever since. When we got away from cash and with insurance people started going to the doctor for every little thing. Leading to major increases in health care cost.
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In his defense, the healthcare system was on its last legs anyway -- but he didn't have to put the last nails in the coffin. As with everything else the ins companies and the lawyers won. Name one company that wouldn't support making it mandatory for everyone to buy their product. Especially if you know you can raise your prices to cover the "losing" cases. I would be interested to know which politicians had investments in insurance companies and how those politicians voted on the ACA. Is that not the dirtiest version of "insider" trading you can think of? Mike
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Re: Hospital bills and bankruptcy.
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10/26/19 12:37 PM
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Health insurance is cheaper than bankruptcy. More dependable than Go Fund Me. I don't think you get it.
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