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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648387
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Where should the long hair go now...(not you Bogmaster) lol ?


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648389
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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648469
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lots of good country buyer out there

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648475
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That's not the case In WI and FHA and NAFA aren't fur buyers.

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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648496
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They'd be hung on here if they beat someone outta a 4 dollar bottle of lure and him-hawd around about it.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648497
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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: The Beav] #6648525
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[quote=The Beav]That's not the case In WI and FHA and NAFA aren't fur buyers.[/quote/}.............why? you have to ship to auction houses so ship to buyers........lots of buyer willing to grade your fur and if you don't like there price they ship back to you at there expenise!

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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: wallfur] #6648546
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Originally Posted by wallfur
lots of good country buyer out there


That was true in the past. Will it still be true IF NAFA is out of the picture?


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648554
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Secretary answering the phone in Stoughton said Check and fees would be made right in October. That leaves them 6 more days. If it doesn’t happen NAFA is out of my picture. They also need to address the problem of grading 60 some sandhill caught coyotes as easterns. Furs shipped intact that end up damaged. They need to quit grading by zipcode of the shipper


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648556
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With SAGA at the wheel i suspect wild fur is out the window with them.


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IMO, if SAGA is looking out for their investments, they'd gain control of NAFA and close them down. It would benefit them two ways. First it would eliminate one big source for buyers and second, it would shut down some production of ranch furs which would also benefit them.

That is looking at it from a businesses perspective.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: danny clifton] #6648561
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
With SAGA at the wheel i suspect wild fur is out the window with them.


I agree. SAGA is after the North American mink production, some of which is the finest in the world. There are also labels involved, like Blackglma. In high fashion, labels are important. And yes, there are still mink coats in high fashion.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: wissmiss] #6648569
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Originally Posted by danny clifton
With SAGA at the wheel i suspect wild fur is out the window with them.


I agree. SAGA is after the North American mink production, some of which is the finest in the world. There are also labels involved, like Blackglma. In high fashion, labels are important. And yes, there are still mink coats in high fashion.


I can see that WissMiss, if it sells above production costs.

Without knowing the terms of their agreement, a good CEO would only keep solvent what will make them money. Time will tell what the terms are.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648584
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Blackgamma males selling at around $35 average. Not much value here.

The one thing I learned over the years from NAFA is every sale benefits from bringing the most buyers together.

Someone should call Kopenhagen.

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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: wallfur] #6648609
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Originally Posted by wallfur
[quote=The Beav]That's not the case In WI and FHA and NAFA aren't fur buyers.[/quote/}.............why? you have to ship to auction houses so ship to buyers........lots of buyer willing to grade your fur and if you don't like there price they ship back to you at there expenise!


Name me one country fur buyer other then groney that I could ship my fur to.
What would it cost me to ship 200 coon and 40 coyotes to some western fur buyer? So I don't like the grade and they ship them back on their dime. I'm still out my original shipping cost. That Is not going to happen.


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"Tom Wiebke, CEO and founder of Wiebke Fur Co., heads our raw fur division. Tom is generally recognized as one of North America’s leading experts in the raw fur business. With over 40 years of experience, he has first hand knowledge of all aspects of the raw fur business.

Wiebke Fur Co. has a vast network of suppliers throughout the U.S. and Canada making it possible for us to produce fur from any section of North America. Our home locations in WI and MN give us access to our specialty, the finest western heavy raccoons in the world. In addition to raccoons, we are also large producers of Western Coyotes, Muskrats, Beavers, Red and Gray Fox, and Wild Mink."

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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648616
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What about Weibke? He is a major buyer and right on the Minnesota/Wisconsin border. Just as close as Groenwald, isn’t he.


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Weibke Is a 6 hour round trip from where I'm at. That's a bit of a haul to find out you don't like his prices. I don't think they run any routes.
Groney Is 15 miles from my door so as far as I can see he Is my only option If NAFA goes belly up.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: The Beav] #6648639
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by wallfur
[quote=The Beav]That's not the case In WI and FHA and NAFA aren't fur buyers.[/quote/}.............why? you have to ship to auction houses so ship to buyers........lots of buyer willing to grade your fur and if you don't like there price they ship back to you at there expenise!


Name me one country fur buyer other then groney that I could ship my fur to.
What would it cost me to ship 200 coon and 40 coyotes to some western fur buyer? So I don't like the grade and they ship them back on their dime. I'm still out my original shipping cost. That Is not going to happen.


So you ship them to auction and don't like the grade, you have no say and can't get them back and your out commission fees and drumming. Auction isn't always the highest price either, I've been shipping to buyers the past 3 years and am very happy with my results.

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So no one Is stating how much these shipping cost are on a large shipment of fur. And I'm thinking coon aren't going to cut It on most of these western sales. You could be $200 $300.00 in the red before they even see that fur.


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