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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648649
10/25/19 05:35 PM
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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: The Beav] #6648653
10/25/19 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
So no one Is stating how much these shipping cost are on a large shipment of fur. And I'm thinking coon aren't going to cut It on most of these western sales. You could be $200 $300.00 in the red before they even see that fur.



Nafas been eating that cost for years. Might be one of the paper cuts that bled them out.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648690
10/25/19 06:44 PM
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I guess you boy's are going to have to start hitting the flea markets to sell hides, call them fuzzy floor mats , lol.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: The Beav] #6648706
10/25/19 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by wallfur
[quote=The Beav]That's not the case In WI and FHA and NAFA aren't fur buyers.[/quote/}.............why? you have to ship to auction houses so ship to buyers........lots of buyer willing to grade your fur and if you don't like there price they ship back to you at there expenise!


Name me one country fur buyer other then groney that I could ship my fur to.
What would it cost me to ship 200 coon and 40 coyotes to some western fur buyer? So I don't like the grade and they ship them back on their dime. I'm still out my original shipping cost. That Is not going to happen.
....pm me got orders for coyote, rats, western cats, marten

Last edited by wallfur; 10/25/19 07:20 PM.
Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648711
10/25/19 07:09 PM
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Try shipping fur from my neck of the woods.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: alaska viking] #6648727
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
Try shipping fur from my neck of the woods.
......yes agreed but I bought marten from there....the guy would put about 20 to 30 marten in a usps large flat rate box for 18.95 so shipping was .50 to 75 cents per pelt.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648755
10/25/19 07:58 PM
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wallfur please PM me your marten price structure. Thanks!


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: The Beav] #6648848
10/25/19 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by wallfur
[quote=The Beav]That's not the case In WI and FHA and NAFA aren't fur buyers.[/quote/}.............why? you have to ship to auction houses so ship to buyers........lots of buyer willing to grade your fur and if you don't like there price they ship back to you at there expenise!


Name me one country fur buyer other then groney that I could ship my fur to.
What would it cost me to ship 200 coon and 40 coyotes to some western fur buyer? So I don't like the grade and they ship them back on their dime. I'm still out my original shipping cost. That Is not going to happen.

Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by wallfur
[quote=The Beav]That's not the case In WI and FHA and NAFA aren't fur buyers.[/quote/}.............why? you have to ship to auction houses so ship to buyers........lots of buyer willing to grade your fur and if you don't like there price they ship back to you at there expenise!


Name me one country fur buyer other then groney that I could ship my fur to.
What would it cost me to ship 200 coon and 40 coyotes to some western fur buyer? So I don't like the grade and they ship them back on their dime. I'm still out my original shipping cost. That Is not going to happen.


You could do shipmthem to me for less then $100 and if it don’t work I’ll ship them back


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6648860
10/25/19 08:59 PM
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I've sold marten to wallfur and was very pleased. Quick payment and accurate grades

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6649086
10/26/19 01:04 AM
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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6649179
10/26/19 07:25 AM
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We need doom and disparity to reach our bottom. Hopeless pessimism here!

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6649191
10/26/19 07:39 AM
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I wish KS had a better fur auction. Our state requires a license to buy fur. For a non resident that is 400 bucks. Pretty steep IMO. That fee should be at most 25 bucks or something to pay for filing and other administrative costs. Free would be lots better. Buyers just don't show up at our sale unless they are already buying here. Its pretty common to get a better offer at their place of business than the auction. Colorado for example allows anyone that shows up to buy. No license required. That 400 dollar fee for nonresident buyers really inhibits free market competition.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: wissmiss] #6649192
10/26/19 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Originally Posted by wallfur
lots of good country buyer out there


That was true in the past. Will it still be true IF NAFA is out of the picture?


There are several fur buyers around me despite NAFA. I know several who were told to go buy huge amounts of coon at high prices because they were going to be a huge money maker that season. They took advances to buy them and then the bottom fell out. Yes it was the buyer who borrowed the money(greed) but it was NAFA (greed)that loaned the money and told them to buy them. NAFA has broke more country buyers than they have helped. Heck Terry would even agree with this statement.(Greed). LLL


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: The Beav] #6649198
10/26/19 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by wallfur
[quote=The Beav]That's not the case In WI and FHA and NAFA aren't fur buyers.[/quote/}.............why? you have to ship to auction houses so ship to buyers........lots of buyer willing to grade your fur and if you don't like there price they ship back to you at there expenise!


Name me one country fur buyer other then groney that I could ship my fur to.
What would it cost me to ship 200 coon and 40 coyotes to some western fur buyer? So I don't like the grade and they ship them back on their dime. I'm still out my original shipping cost. That Is not going to happen.


I laughed when I read this and wondered if you have finally lost your mind. You won't spend a hundred bucks to ship to someone like Shane who would offer you a fair price that you could turn down if you wanted to or get your fur check which I assure you would not bounce without taking out commission or shipping/ tumbling charges and he has no magazine to sell either. No waiting for three months or like some, still waiting. 100% Clearance and you don't have to defend him on here like you and wissmiss do daily with NAFA.

I don't get offended easily but you bragging your check did not bounce and NAFA is not to blame is just too rich for my diet and it turns my stomach a bit.

I pray for the day to return where a country buyer could tell you what fur was worth a month before season because he has orders in advance. If brokers cannot buy fur at a bloated top heavy fur auction then if the end users need them. they will find them. LLL


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6649203
10/26/19 07:57 AM
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greed
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intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.

Is this ^always bad?

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6649205
10/26/19 08:07 AM
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Of course not. Greed is only a bad thing when it's the individual ox getting gored.

Some would say a person is greedy if he catches say a 1000 rats, or 1000 coon, or a 1000 fox, or 500 coyotes, or 500 beaver. Are they?

Greed is an integral part of what built this country.

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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6649206
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That’s what I kinda thought. But whenever I see it mentioned it always seems to carry a strong negative aura.

Thanks Steve I’m not necessarily affiliated so morality issues can get confusing.

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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6649209
10/26/19 08:17 AM
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Well some of these furbuyers are no longer buying and had to pay NAFA back for the advances. So it does have its down side.

Catching a thousand of anything is only considered greedy by those who don't, won't or cannot usually. Those trapping 2000 would think they are slackers. smile LLL


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: LLtrapper] #6649214
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Well some of these furbuyers are no longer buying and had to pay NAFA back for the advances. So it does have its down side.

Catching a thousand of anything is only considered greedy by those who don't, won't or cannot usually. Those trapping 2000 would think they are slackers. smile LLL



That what’s so curious about greed it usually only applies to the other side. Lol

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Catching good numbers of fur is not greed as long as it is not done to the point of harming the resource-then it is greed.


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