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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649289
10/26/19 09:33 AM
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I guess I do not want to be down range of a shooter. But I have never heard of someone getting shot in a drive. Driving a car is dangerous.


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649292
10/26/19 09:36 AM
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They drive deer here in Iowa .I am not one that dose it. It is DNR way to keep the deer numbers in check. I know it mess up the coyote trapping. I do the early muzzle loader season. when the deer are not mess up. It is not for me to drive deer . But if it works for those that dose it and like was stated know who is in your group so much the better. I know my dad and brother and I we use to drive the rabbits and birds and for hunting and we where all line up and my dad taught us how to do it. But I hunt lone now. I know in SC they use dogs also beside NC .I was there when they did use dogs and ask about it . The one I talk with said there is too many water moccasins that they rather lost a dog in the swamps then someone to get bite.


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649293
10/26/19 09:37 AM
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More hunters are injured by falling from a treestand than from being shot.

Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649296
10/26/19 09:39 AM
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I’ve heard bumble bees a time or two!

Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649308
10/26/19 09:52 AM
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we would drive deer bow hunting. 2 pusher (with bows) and 3-4 at the other end of the woods. We took a lot of deer. When driving with a firearm. We set up the shooters in such a way that they were not shooting toward the drivers. It isn't rocket science, but it is an efficient way to pile the deer up quick.

Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649309
10/26/19 09:57 AM
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I propose life is unsafe and that living it is a surefire way to end up dead.

I enjoy drives, it feels sporting and is a ton of fun, just choose your partners wisely you dont have to dance with anyone who ask.

Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649340
10/26/19 10:27 AM
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Yes Jim, it is Unsafe, don't do it. You have too much to live for. The rest of us are pretty much disposable and we know it and accept it.


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649341
10/26/19 10:27 AM
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Yep we use dogs here too. A good dog race is a beautiful sound. I know some guys that turn lose about 30 to 40 walker dogs up in the mountains in the national forest.alot of fun!

Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649353
10/26/19 10:44 AM
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bet there is way more drives in PA for bear than there are for deer.









Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649364
10/26/19 10:58 AM
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Only deer hunting accident I was close to(next property from our hunt) happened to a young hunter. It was hilly country. Drivers pushed a deer to this young man and he shot. The rifled slug hit a rock and ricocheted back towards the drivers hitting his uncle in the throat. The uncle lived.

Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649370
10/26/19 11:03 AM
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We always drive deer. Have hunted with the same group for 10 years or more and I completely trust everyone of them. No new "members" are allowed without the consent of the entire group. We have a ton of fun and shoot a lot of deer. I think if I had to just sit in a tree and wait for a deer to show up I would be bored to death and wouldn't hunt.

Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649380
10/26/19 11:08 AM
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21 yrs as an emt here in a little town that encompasses a big hunting area and i can remember 4 turkey accidents,and probably twice that many treestand incidents.have probably hauled way more than those 2 put together for medical emergencies.don't remember a deer hunting shooting accident though.









Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649402
10/26/19 11:25 AM
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It's all good here, I've never seen a deer behind the wheel. grin

Seriously though... As far as I know it is "illegal" here... Or at least using hounds as part of a drive is. Not sure about one group pushing deer to another group... Seems that would be hard to define legally for enforcement purposes.

If it is indeed illegal I would think safety and perhaps "ethics" are the reasoning behind it. Although ethics have always struck me as subjective.

Kinda curious now. I may have to ask about it.

Mike


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649407
10/26/19 11:31 AM
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Drives are fun and safe if done right. I haven't heard of anyone being shot from drives. Most hunters that get shot are from self indicted wounds. Probably more dangerous to get behind the wheel of a car. What a dumb thread. crazy


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: pcr2] #6649410
10/26/19 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pcr2
21 yrs as an emt here in a little town that encompasses a big hunting area and i can remember 4 turkey accidents,and probably twice that many treestand incidents.have probably hauled way more than those 2 put together for medical emergencies.don't remember a deer hunting shooting accident though.


My grandfather was on a volunteer ambulance crew decades ago before the big push for hunter safety... He said in that time he only worked one hunting "accident." A young man in the community, for no apparent reason, sat down under a tree and committed suicide by shooting himself. Some proposed there was an accidental discharge, but my grandfather stated that it was clearly self-inflicted.

Mike


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649433
10/26/19 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by James
"In Wisconsin and probably in many other states, about half of all hunting accidental shootings occur during drives."

https://biggamelogic.com/deer-driving/


This is incorrect. Every gun accident has to be reported by law. The DNR has a summary of accidents every year on there website. Last year was the safest with only three non fatal accidents. Only one was during a drive. James, you need to fact check before you post.


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6649438
10/26/19 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
I propose life is unsafe and that living it is a surefire way to end up dead.
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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649464
10/26/19 12:12 PM
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And none of us even wore Blaze Orange It was It was red and black Woolrich coats.


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6649542
10/26/19 02:15 PM
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Considering the staggering number of deer drives carried out each year (and bear, and hog, etc...) and the blatant lack of injuries sustained during them...I would have to disagree 100%.

These days, drives being "unsafe" looks and sounds and feels a lot more like an angle to push the agenda of those who simply "don't like" them.


and then there's this:

Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
I propose life is unsafe and that living it is a surefire way to end up dead.

I enjoy drives, it feels sporting and is a ton of fun, just choose your partners wisely you dont have to dance with anyone who ask.

grin


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: The Beav] #6649543
10/26/19 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
And none of us even wore Blaze Orange It was It was red and black Woolrich coats.


Early pic of the Beav circa 1843 in Woolrich coat.

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