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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: The Beav] #6649578
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Originally Posted by The Beav
And none of us even wore Blaze Orange It was It was red and black Woolrich coats.

that weighed 300 pounds to a kid if it was raining.









Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: pcr2] #6649582
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James, James, James, I'd rather go quail hunting with Dick Cheney, than on a ride with Ted Kennedy. laugh

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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6649597
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Originally Posted by Sprung&Rusty
Originally Posted by James
"In Wisconsin and probably in many other states, about half of all hunting accidental shootings occur during drives."

https://biggamelogic.com/deer-driving/


This is incorrect. Every gun accident has to be reported by law. The DNR has a summary of accidents every year on there website. Last year was the safest with only three non fatal accidents. Only one was during a drive. James, you need to fact check before you post.


Nah, I wasn't born yesterday. Not only do you not back up your claim with an authority or link, but you're remark is limited to a single year.

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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: teepee2] #6649599
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Originally Posted by teepee2
James, James, James, I'd rather go quail hunting with Dick Cheney, than on a ride with Ted Kennedy. laugh


I wouldn't do either one.

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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649602
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Long ago and far away..... we were driving poplar islands in the swamp. I was shooter on the first island. A doe and 2 fawns bust out, full run. I rolled the doe on the first shot and my gun jammed. The fawns made it to the next island. The crew assembled and headed towards island 2. We ended up getting spread out. Just as the first drivers got to the woods the fawns ran back through us. Nothing like having two deer running amongst 20 hunters with guns. We held our fire till they busted out the side of the group. They didn't make it back to the woods, and no one was shot.

It all comes down to your crew and their reactions.

I've had my scope on a huge buck and didn't shoot because my drivers were pushing him through the willows. It was painful to watch him skirt the woods and go right through them to where they parked the truck.

Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: The Beav] #6649632
10/26/19 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
That's just BS. When I was a kid every farmer and his friends set up deer drives and pushed every piece of woods In the area. We did It for 20 some year's AND NO ONE EVER GOT SHOT.

Ditto.

With the clueless, emotion based morons nowadays, it may well be a bad idea to do drives.
However with sane, normal, well disciplined people drives are the best and safest way to put venison, and many other meats, on the table.


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
-Edmund Burke
"We are fast approaching... rule by brute force."
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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: pcr2] #6649640
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Originally Posted by pcr2
i'd like to see the numbers of those hurt on deer drives versus those that fall from trees while hunting.


In PA last couple yrs more treestand accidents than shootings.


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649649
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Wisconsin has reported "for the last 10 years, 39 percent of deer hunting incidents were the direct result of deer drives.” https://georgesoutdoornews.bangorda...ne-woods/deer-driving-law-reinterpreted/

In 2016 Wisconsin reported eleven hunter shooting incidents. https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/hunt/documents/incident/2016HuntingIncidentSynopsis.pdf The biggest cause was self-inflicted wounds due to mishandling a firearm. Second biggest cause was shooting a nearby partner due to mishandling a firearm. Then there are a few quail, grouse, and turkey hunters.

There are only four incidents involving hunters actively hunting deer. In two, the hunter lost control of his gun while moving in a tree or tower blind and shot himself.

The other two incidents involve hunters shot during deer drives. We can accurately say that 100 percent of the shootings of big game hunters by another hunter were the result of deer drives gone wrong.

Two hunters shot in God knows how many deer drives is not a lot. You folks who say driving deer is safer than driving a car have a good point. You've convinced me that deer driving can be safer than I believed when I started this thread.

But I also think it's pretty clear that driving is the most dangerous way to hunt game.

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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649652
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Shot many driven deer... I'm not keen on doing it with 20 guys, but really, no different than any public hunting. You never really know where everyone is. I like small drives, less to keep track of.


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649653
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"Every Ohio deer hunting outfitter I've talked to bans driving as too dangerous."

I think they are pulling your leg. This ain't Africa. They would have to pay somebody to drive for you and insure them. Then they never know what kind of idiot they may book. Never was the best way to target big deer, just deer. IMO.


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649675
10/26/19 05:29 PM
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James, glad to see you come around. Sorry, but I don't know how to post links and I'm not going to do other people's research. I did post one year but I did look at several on the DNR website. Not hard for anyone to look up. Maybe I'll learn how to post links soon. Lol.


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649684
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Most state fish and game departments probably compile hunting statistics similar to those published by Alabama.

Alabama hunting incidents 1 September 2018 – 30August 2019- https://www.outdooralabama.com/sites/default/files/2018-19%20Hunting%20Incident%20Statistics.pdf


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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649726
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harassing me about drivin deer is even more dangerous. laugh









Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649774
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If we want to why does somebody think they can tell us not to. If you dont want to dont, but dont tell me i cant.

Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649783
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Who said you can't?

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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649789
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Thats a liberal thinking. Ever notice if a conservative doesnt like candy bars he doesnt eat candy bars. But if a liberal doesnt like candy bars he thinks NOBODY should eat them.

Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: cci] #6649805
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Thats a liberal thinking. Ever notice if a conservative doesnt like candy bars he doesnt eat candy bars. But if a liberal doesnt like candy bars he thinks NOBODY should eat them.



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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649813
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I'm envious of you men who know ten or twenty other guys you can trust with your life.

I don't. My brief experience with deer drives ended with the shot after the shot one guy almost put into a driver. The gunner killed a deer with his second shot, and was more concerned with admiring his trophy than the man he almost killed, who was freaking out.

I didn't hunt with them again, and my view of drives has been colored by that experience.

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Re: Driving deer is unsafe [Re: James] #6649817
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yeah,you were a lawyer James,it may not really be an accident after all just one of them hardened criminals you put away.so i guess my point is that deer driving is probably way more dangerous to lawyers than most other hunters.









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LOL!

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