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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Actor]
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10/26/19 08:39 PM
10/26/19 08:39 PM
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trappermac NY
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Sad really. You can love em or hate em, but they were a staple in the fur industry and promotion of the use of wild fur. When you see what happened in California, whats happening in other states, certain fashion outlets deciding not to sell fur garments, etc, I truly fear for the future of trapping. Here in NY 10,000 licensed trappers, only 2000 in a good year are members. I hear the same from other states. CA regulated the heck out of the trappers, weakened the ranks, and put them down for good. It will be a model to eliminate trapping. Last thing we need is to lose a fur outlet and supporter. I've always felt that trappers will perservere, no matter the obstacles we face. I'm starting to feel otherwise, starting to feel what was always dear to me is finally, in jeopardy.
Member NYSTA, NTA, FBU, ECTA
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Actor]
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10/26/19 09:19 PM
10/26/19 09:19 PM
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Cheyenne Wyoming
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I just can't figure out why so many people on here to find joy in this.
Antelope, the original fast food!!
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Castormound]
#6649918
10/26/19 09:31 PM
10/26/19 09:31 PM
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SE Nebraska
trapperne
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I just can't figure out why so many people on here to find joy in this.
To the average trapper Nafa couldn’t do no wrong, but people in the know know the underhanded things they have done. IMO they may have done more harm to wild fur then good in the last 20 years
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Actor]
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10/26/19 09:33 PM
10/26/19 09:33 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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Its flyby night fur buyers or guys that likely never dealt with nafa for any length of time,and /or don't sell much if any fur.Pot stirrers.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: trapperne]
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10/26/19 09:35 PM
10/26/19 09:35 PM
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Cheyenne Wyoming
Castormound
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I just can't figure out why so many people on here to find joy in this.
To the average trapper Nafa couldn’t do no wrong, but people in the know know the underhanded things they have done. IMO they may have done more harm to wild fur then good in the last 20 years No good will come of losing this big of a market player
Antelope, the original fast food!!
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: trapperne]
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10/26/19 09:36 PM
10/26/19 09:36 PM
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idaho
wallfur
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I just can't figure out why so many people on here to find joy in this.
To the average trapper Nafa couldn’t do no wrong, but people in the know know the underhanded things they have done. IMO they may have done more harm to wild fur then good in the last 20 years ............. bingo!!! how right you are!
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Actor]
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10/26/19 09:44 PM
10/26/19 09:44 PM
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SE Nebraska
trapperne
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What market, unless it’s coyotes or fancy western cats there is no wild fur market. And you can sell those items anywhere for same money
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Actor]
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10/26/19 10:56 PM
10/26/19 10:56 PM
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South Dakota
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Fur markets have been around for long time !! sometimes high most of times low..
nafa is a co operative owned by members... socialism at its finest !! ceo walks with the money and patrons eat sand !!!
Wild fur will always be a commodity .... someday not sure when it will be high again.
Might be when the green climate change people are burning tires around campfire to stay warm !
The only place you find free cheese is in a mousetrap !
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Actor]
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10/26/19 11:19 PM
10/26/19 11:19 PM
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Armpit, ak
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Chapter 11 is an action when they file to be able to write-off certain items, and they want to reorganize, but then there is a person or a panel of people that are charged by the court to over see what happens. There are times when the court has stepped in and stopped the action, because what they wanted to do in not feasible in the long run. The corporation filling the action can select who they want to pay and how much and then the court decide if that is reasonable and fair. The court can also tell them they have to pay so much on the dollar. Believe me it isn't much. I was involved in one some years back when I had a business and I was only owed like $300 and I ended up getting a check for a little more than a buck fifty. The people or companies with standing claims are usually categorized and the high class you are in the more you get of what you are owed. Like banks are usually sitting right at the top of the list, the little guy gets the hind teat. I hope this explains so it make sense. But again that is Canada so God only knows how it will work there. Garry- Thanks. What is chapter 11 liquidation?
Who is John Galt?
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Actor]
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10/26/19 11:56 PM
10/26/19 11:56 PM
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se South Dakota
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No more Free DVD's.
No more International Trapper Magazine.
No more Drumming Fees.
No more Cities fees for Otter and Cats.
No more Fire sales.
No more Private treaty.
No more Fur advances for Coonman220 !! frown
It's all over but the crying.
If you listen real close, You can hear Herman Jansen drifting away on his golden parachute.
BOHICA.
w Walleyed- Shouldn't you be sitting in a canoe today and chasing after muskrats instead of waxing so eloquently about NAFA's demise...? I always enjoy your canoe and rat adventures every year (truly do) and I've said you should compile all your tman posting of those trapping threads into a book. Now, with NAFA being belly up for wild fur, you can add a chapter on how you predicted it and how you would re-order the North American fur buying world. I'd buy your book in a heart beat!
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: NonPCfed]
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10/27/19 02:52 AM
10/27/19 02:52 AM
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n.e, iowa
coonman220
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No more Free DVD's.
No more International Trapper Magazine.
No more Drumming Fees.
No more Cities fees for Otter and Cats.
No more Fire sales.
No more Private treaty.
No more Fur advances for Coonman220 !! frown
It's all over but the crying.
If you listen real close, You can hear Herman Jansen drifting away on his golden parachute.
BOHICA.
w Walleyed- Shouldn't you be sitting in a canoe today and chasing after muskrats instead of waxing so eloquently about NAFA's demise...? I always enjoy your canoe and rat adventures every year (truly do) and I've said you should compile all your tman posting of those trapping threads into a book. Now, with NAFA being belly up for wild fur, you can add a chapter on how you predicted it and how you would re-order the North American fur buying world. I'd buy your book in a heart beat! so what's the big deal an issue about me getting a advance ???? Like I only one??? Like I cause this????, Why should my name be even mention ???? I guess ppl on here always got be picking on someone an if everyone notice the ones that do it an location from, I just a real small trapper
Last edited by coonman220; 10/27/19 02:53 AM.
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: wr otis]
#6650144
10/27/19 07:09 AM
10/27/19 07:09 AM
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Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
walleyed
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What about the small handful of wild fur still laying around in small piles? "BURN, BABY, BURN.........Racoon Inferno......... BURN, BABY, BURN........ Burn that Mother Down" !!!  w
Last edited by walleyed; 10/27/19 07:10 AM.
"Provisional/Interim" member of NYS Trappers Association
Jefferson Co. Fur Harvesters
I Support Non-Resident Trapping
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: NonPCfed]
#6650158
10/27/19 07:30 AM
10/27/19 07:30 AM
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Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
walleyed
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Walleyed-
Shouldn't you be sitting in a canoe today and chasing after muskrats instead of waxing so eloquently about NAFA's demise...? I always enjoy your canoe and rat adventures every year.
Your right, I should be checking rat traps right now. Rat season started Friday, the 25th. Unfortunately, I am dead in the water. My Season ended before it started. Monday afternoon I was preparing to wax the last of my #1.5 victor stoploss and was hooking up a fresh, full 20 lb propane tank to my trap boiler. Bend over to get the gas hose to hook up the tank, lost my balance, and went down arse over tea-kettle. Dragged my leg across to Top valve guard on the tank, and sliced all the skin off my left shin from my knee to my ankle. I'm on Blood Thinning Zarelto and 81mm asprin and I started bleeding out. Hopped on one leg to the house, called a buddy to take me to the Medical clinic. I am now at risk of severe infection due to chronic diabetes until the wound heals and skin integrity is intact. i have to get it disinfected, dressed, and wrapped everyday, and I'm on a high dose of antibiotics No trapping or hunting, or getting the wound wet unless I want to risk a peg leg. So here i sit at my computer, a demented and bitter man.  w
"Provisional/Interim" member of NYS Trappers Association
Jefferson Co. Fur Harvesters
I Support Non-Resident Trapping
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: coonman220]
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10/27/19 07:34 AM
10/27/19 07:34 AM
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Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
walleyed
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so what's the big deal an issue about me getting a advance ???? Like I only one??? Like I cause this????, Why should my name be even mention ???? I guess ppl on here always got be picking on someone an if everyone notice the ones that do it an location from, I just a real small trapper
Sorry Coonman220, I did not mean to offend you. I harbor no ill will towards you whatsoever. I apologize for mentioning you name in my post. sorry again. w
"Provisional/Interim" member of NYS Trappers Association
Jefferson Co. Fur Harvesters
I Support Non-Resident Trapping
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