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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Actor] #6650303
10/27/19 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Actor
Well... Many of us were correct … I don't see where they address what they are going to do with all of the fur they are holding in there freezers that belong to the trappers

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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: cat catcher] #6650305
10/27/19 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by cat catcher
I talked to multiple people about this it sounds like no way they can handle it unless they get more space. So It is possible but not with there current infrastructure. We need both auction houses.

sure its not you need,not we need?


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650375
10/27/19 10:16 AM
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My 2 cents on NAFA the king and his jester gutted the place and split. Also, they don't care about us. NAFA is a 4 letter abbreviation after all!

Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Catpincher] #6650391
10/27/19 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Catpincher
Trapping season is about to get underway and not a peep out of FHA through all of this publicly, although taking the high road is commendable. You would think they would be adding a sale date or two and giving a market forecast. Gopher Everett?


My receiving agent is keeping me updated privately on the situation and estimated value of my product.


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650396
10/27/19 10:39 AM
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I don't deal directly with nafa. Or the fha or any other big auction house. Infact I never plan to. But I will ask this of the angry mob. (Hope there is a serious answer.) what effect do you think this will have with the association sales and country buyers. With a major auction house shutting the doors on wild fur. Then things could take an interesting turn. There are other outlets and places to sell. However this can't bode well for the other fur sales and auctions. Please tell me Im wrong.


You may think before you act. The question is did you listen to your own council?
Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Catcollector] #6650401
10/27/19 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Catcollector
My 2 cents on NAFA the king and his jester gutted the place and split.


Are you speaking of Herman Jansen ?

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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: walleyed] #6650402
10/27/19 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by Canvasback2
Another thing.....

What happens if November 1st comes, and no check in the mailbox...Ö


If some trapper or fur buyer were to drive to the NAFA headquarters, would they be issued their GOOD check at the NAFA office in person???


This could bring rise to the latest Invasion of Canada by a large, angry mob of jilted wild fur trappers.

Everyone holding a bad check plus bad check charges could meet at the Peace Bridge in Buffalo,

Storm Canadian Customs, and March on Toronto.

Could be the start of the 2019 version of the War of 1812.

Of Course,

We'd have to face Boco's Trapper Militia consisting

of Boco, Jurassic Park, Hutchy, Gibb, Ron, and many other legends. laugh


w


I'd leave Gibb of your list. He was never a believer IMHO. He'll be back at FHA shortly with a sit-rep.


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Steelflight] #6650403
10/27/19 10:52 AM
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Alright...enough silliness.

If we look at this in terms of "retrenchment" for the industry as a whole, it might have a stabilizing effect and strengthen wild fur markets down the road.

Last edited by mainer; 10/27/19 11:08 AM.

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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Steelflight] #6650404
10/27/19 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Steelflight
I don't deal directly with nafa. Or the fha or any other big auction house. Infact I never plan to. But I will ask this of the angry mob. (Hope there is a serious answer.) what effect do you think this will have with the association sales and country buyers. With a major auction house shutting the doors on wild fur. Then things could take an interesting turn. There are other outlets and places to sell. However this can't bode well for the other fur sales and auctions. Please tell me Im wrong.


Youíre right to a certain extent that the excess fur NAFA absorbed and held will need to find new homes. However, the demand for wild fur hasnít changed because one auction house isnít selling. Those buyers will move to FHA, local sales and agents to fill their quotas.

Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650408
10/27/19 11:01 AM
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I think only time will tell what losing NAFA means. In the short term, simple uncertainty will probably depress things even further. Long term, maybe some other big player will emerge, or several smaller players that will diversify things a little. NAFA is not the only game in town, and I can't help but think someone will see opportunity here and fill the void. This of course would happen a lot faster if we had a decent market! I want to remain optimistic.

Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650410
10/27/19 11:02 AM
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Does fha give advances ? Probly not, dont know Who contact, might be best deal with other option, not lot options, unless u want to pay lots shipping or drive long distances. For less money, gfw, is likely only best option, I don't know nothing About fha. Other than small offerings compare to nafa, never try them but there posted sale results are way less than nafa prices

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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650412
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An since the over all wild fur market Is In the crapper Those other selling venues better have some major storage facilities. Maybe FHA can rent NAFAs Facility In Toronto.


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650415
10/27/19 11:08 AM
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You know the mink ranchers just bankrupted two auction companies by flooding the market. It appears trappers want to do this to the last one. Take a year off!


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650417
10/27/19 11:14 AM
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FHA is in good shape,they will be in a great position in the next year or two when the market takes off again.

Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650423
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drain the swamp i say. grin


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Boco] #6650424
10/27/19 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
FHA is in good shape,they will be in a great position in the next year or two when the market takes off again.



So Robert,

Are you still going to ship wild fur to Doug Lawson and his band of Fur Pirates in 2019-2020 ?

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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Boco] #6650447
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Originally Posted by Boco
FHA is in good shape,they will be in a great position in the next year or two when the market takes off again.


What makes you so sure the market is going to take off again in a couple of years?

Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: wissmiss] #6650460
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Originally Posted by Boco
FHA is in good shape,they will be in a great position in the next year or two when the market takes off again.


What makes you so sure the market is going to take off again in a couple of years?




Perspective is an interesting subject.



Some see a situation as a problem. Others see an opportunity.



The bankers in canada.....with buildings full of market researchers.......think the reward isn't worth the risk.





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I wouldn't wait till the end of the season looking to hit a fur marketing home run this season. Outlets will probably fill quicker this season.

Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: coonman220] #6650489
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Originally Posted by coonman220
Does fha give advances ? Probly not, dont know Who contact, might be best deal with other option, not lot options, unless u want to pay lots shipping or drive long distances. For less money, gfw, is likely only best option, I don't know nothing About fha. Other than small offerings compare to nafa, never try them but there posted sale results are way less than nafa prices


They will have a whole lot more fur offered than NAFA will this season. LLL


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650490
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