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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650504
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I was going to pose this question much earlier but events have moved on but it doesn't change the situation. For the states, there are certainly multiple ways to move wild fur but what about the Canadian "bush" people, especially First Nation trappers? What I've read on tman over the past few years is that NAFA was mostly the way more isolated Canadians got their fur to buyers. Maybe I misunderstood and CAN bush residents have more options but NAFA did have (supposedly) that 1670 Hudson' Bay Company legacy. Too bad the contemporary people have p***ed that away. It would be interesting to hear if young stud muffin PM Trudeau has anything to say about NAFA folding by not taking any wild fur? Maybe Justin is torn by being "woke" and supporting the mostly anti-fur global progressive view that its "evil" and being a SJW for First Nations?? So how does he defend First Nations' people way of subsistence life that includes harvesting wild fur...? Perhaps he should be a national leader instead of being a "cool" politician...? I'm sure Beto O'Rourke can probably offer him some advice...


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650514
10/27/19 02:57 PM
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My understanding is that FHA has agreements, through the government, to market the pelts from native cooperatives. Not sure of the details but there is a reason you see polar bears and seals at FHA but rarely at NAFA.


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650519
10/27/19 03:03 PM
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They have a program in NWT where the trappers are subsidized by the government. Socialism Boco! So those natives are being taken care of by Trudeau. As far as trapping being a vital income producer for bush people. If that was true, we would have starved years ago. FHA will provide the same service as NAFA did. Selling fur below production costs.


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650637
10/27/19 05:36 PM
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Those programs are provided by the Native governments to support trapping as a cultural necessity.It is covered by the costs the native governents put on the big companys operating on their territory.
Similar to your government giving you a yearly dividend Dirt.I think yours is more socialist than the natives because you don't have to do anything to get yours,just eat,sleep and fart.The natives here have to actually go out on the land and produce something to get their sub.


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: IllinoisTraps58] #6650649
10/27/19 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Horse Creek Fur
Originally Posted by coonman220
Does fha give advances ? Probly not, dont know Who contact, might be best deal with other option, not lot options, unless u want to pay lots shipping or drive long distances. For less money, gfw, is likely only best option, I don't know nothing About fha. Other than small offerings compare to nafa, never try them but there posted sale results are way less than nafa prices

You need to check out the Iowa Trappers Fur Auction at Boone Iowa in early January. You should be a member anyway and you should get decent money the day of the sale. You don’t have to sell if you don’t want to. There’s usually many buyers so you can do well if you have good fur. Put up fur always brings the best money. Good luck.

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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Boco] #6650659
10/27/19 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Those programs are provided by the Native governments to support trapping as a cultural necessity.It is covered by the costs the native governents put on the big companys operating on their territory.
Similar to your government giving you a yearly dividend Dirt.I think yours is more socialist than the natives because you don't have to do anything to get yours,just eat,sleep and fart.The natives here have to actually go out on the land and produce something to get their sub.


I think my money is more socialist too. But that does not change the fact that trapping is subsidized in the Northwest Territories because trapping don't pay in the bush. If it did, they wouldn't be subsidizing it.


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650660
10/27/19 06:13 PM
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I haven't shipped for a few years, however at FHA advances are possible and can be negotiated but generally only on fur that enjoys a hot market. They have typically been more conservative than NAFA on the amounts advanced.


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650661
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If you are going to sell at the Iowa Trappers Sale, you won’t need an advance. You get paid in person the day of the sale. Can’t get any better than that!!


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650706
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coonman must use the NAFA advances to fund the logistics to run his line, otherwise why all the interest in them? I prefer to go into debt to trap another way...


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650712
10/27/19 07:15 PM
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If you can figure out the logistics of coonmans endeavors you might have a chance at balalncimg the federal budget


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: trapperne] #6650720
10/27/19 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by trapperne
If you can figure out the logistics of coonmans endeavors you might have a chance at balalncimg the federal budget

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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650731
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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Canvasback2] #6650898
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Originally Posted by Canvasback2
Do they still have furs left unsold from prior auctions?


Id like to know what’s going to happen with my 62 opossum. I’ve got about $250-300 worth of fur left that was bought back. Not the end of the world but that would help cover a lot of my fuel costs.

Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650900
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That's $5 a possum,didnt know they were better than rats.


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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Boco] #6650928
10/27/19 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
That's $5 a possum,didnt know they were better than rats.

There’s another 20 various furs as well as the opossums

Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Catcollector] #6650956
10/27/19 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Catcollector
many local auctions out there, work half as hard to find a buyer and you'll be fine but firstly enjoy your time outdoors!



Where do you think the buyers at the local auctions sell their fur at? NAFA???
This is probably going to be a mess all the way down the line.

Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Castormound] #6650986
10/27/19 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Castormound
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Well... Many of us were correct … I don't see where they address what they are going to do with all of the fur they are holding in there freezers that belong to the trappers

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Where did this come from?



I rec'd it in an email yesterday and posted it then last evening when I checked my email.

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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6650988
10/27/19 11:46 PM
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Alot small buyers likely go though groenwold or other, not afford to wait for auction pay. No idea what price well be like now because this, maybe go down more

Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Marty B] #6650994
10/27/19 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty B


The bankers in canada.....with buildings full of market researchers.......think the reward isn't worth the risk.



Marty B … maybe the Bankers in Canada, just think NAFA isn't worth the risk. They still might back another company with good business practices and a financial stability.

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Re: NAFA not accepting wild fur 2020 [Re: Actor] #6651126
10/28/19 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Actor
Originally Posted by Marty B


The bankers in canada.....with buildings full of market researchers.......think the reward isn't worth the risk.



Marty B … maybe the Bankers in Canada, just think NAFA isn't worth the risk. They still might back another company with good business practices and a financial stability.

Garry-


Doubt it. The business model sucks

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