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Longbow hit deer question. #6650822
10/27/19 09:06 PM
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So I hit my first deer with a longbow. I’m not sure if it was in spine or
Top of shoulder blade? So here’s is what happened. Doe came in perfectly broadside at
16 yards straight in front of me. As I pulled back she stopped, I let arrow go and she stepped
Toward me so when arrow hit she was just starting to turn. There was no loud crack more of a thud but it looked father back then shoulder blade. Arrow stuck in what looked like 6 inches or so.
She ran maybe 10 yards and flopped over. And was kicking kind of with front feet. I got another arrow out
Got down and she got up. Went about 20 yards and fell over again in thick thick cover.
I thought Maybe it was spine and wanted to try to shoot again but she got up again and went another 20 yards
Or so and heard crash again and didn’t hear her get up but I found the arrow with no broad head and blood about 6-8 inches up the arrow and some fat on it. And I left for the evening and will look in the morning. So has anyone hit a low spine shot and had a deer get up and run off and then end up finding it? Or
Maybe it was shoulder blade? Idk for sure what to think 🤔



Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6650832
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I had somewhat similar when I gut shot an antelope, you made a good choice to pull out for the night.

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6650835
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It's not worth speculating, nailed or not nailed. Do your due diligence in the morning, or as I would now, and see what happens. Best of luck.


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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6650850
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That's a strange one?
Several things. The no " loud crack" tells !e not a spine/ shoulder hit.
The " this" sounds like a body shot.
Can't say I've ever seen fat on an arrow with a high hit?.
Good choice of backing out.


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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6650875
10/27/19 09:52 PM
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Probably liver and gut. The coyotes will be eating good tonite.

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: trapperbill] #6650911
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Originally Posted by trapperbill
Probably liver and gut. The coyotes will be eating good tonite.

Yeah while backing out and giving a wounded animal a few hours can be a good thing. letting them stay out all night isnt always a good thing. Im bad about trailing them down and finishing them off and getting it over with. If they arent dead in an hour or two chances they wont die at all or the blood trail drying up with them still moving. Or worst thing is coyotes getting to them first.


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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6650934
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It's best to leave an unknown hit till morning, coyotes or not. I'd rather find it eaten by coyotes then push it and never know.


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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6650942
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Nice and cool tonight, you did the right thing to back out. I disagree with The Possum Man about deer not dying if they aren't dead after an hour or two. Plenty of gut shot deer need 8+ hours to expire. Chase after a gut shot deer too soon and it will still likely die, but you probably won't find it.

I've never seen a deer run and crash and get up and do it again a couple more times. That's a strange one. Update us tomorrow when you find it. I'm curious to hear where you hit it. Good luck.

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6650948
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I’ll give an update. The going down and getting up is why I thought it maybe had something to
Do with the spines but if it was the Spine the arrow wouldn’t have gone in 6 inches.will
Find out tomorrow I guess.



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Good luck! Really hope you find it and I give you credit for sticking with it.

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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6650987
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Sounds like an ok hit but just a little early getting down and the adrenaline pushing the deer.

If you spined her she wouldn't be able to pop up like that.

Here's to wishing for short trails and backstraps in the morning.

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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651053
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Know anyone with a blood tracking dog?


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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651058
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In my opinion you were right to back out for the night. I have been told the same thing twice about the coyotes will eat good tonight and both times I recovered my deer in the morning. Best of luck and will be looking for your update.


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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651075
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Go check in morning when you can see better and the deer can bed down and stiffen up.
It would just be guessing now so go look in daylight. Let us know what you found.
Hit one once in the ear from above, straight down. No clue where I hit it at the time, hardly any blood but arrow had some on it. Never found deer next day. Tried hard though. Two days later got a deer back under same stand, and field dressing it noticed an "x" cut nearly through its left ear. I guess it was fine and my previous shot wasnt even close to being fatal.
Jim

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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651079
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By morning, when you recover the deer, won't the meat be spoiled?

I'm of the school of go after it fairly soon. So the bears or other hunters or spoilage don't claim it.

I fancy myself something of a tracker and am always looking for opportunities to increase my skill. After fifty yards or so, you should have a good idea where the deer was hit. If the animal was hit in the body and didn't fall over within a couple hundred yards, it was likely gut shot. I give these guys half hour to an hour to get sick, as the experts advise, before I'm on their trail. I am sorry to report that I have never been able to recover a gut-shot animal. Sooner or later the wound closes up, clots, stops bleeding, leaving nothing but indistinct random footprints in the forest duff.

The other kind of bad shooting I've seen results in leg or hip hits. I go after these right away. If you can't catch up with them quickly, when they're still dealing with shock, they're gone.

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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651081
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You may not have much of a blood trail to follow. Watch for blood sign up off the ground on the side the arrow entered in case there is no exit.
What broad head you using?

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651116
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I’m looking forward to the update NE. I’m curious as to where you hit her as well, hope you find her.


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Also, I agree with the above posters that you made the right decision backing out for the night. I have done that many times and recovered the deer the next morning. Hopefully, your outcome will be the same.


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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651131
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James, I've never heard of any expert recommending only waiting an hour to go after a gut shot deer. Those deer cam take 8-12 hours to expire, and getting after them too soon just results in jumping them from what would've been their death bed and usually losing them unless you have tracking snow or a dog.

Hopefully it doesn't happen again, but if it does, maybe let it go 8+ hours before trailing. During hunting season it's usually cool enough the meat won't spoil overnight, at least the majority will still be good.

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Originally Posted by tlguy
James, I've never heard of any expert recommending only waiting an hour to go after a gut shot deer. Those deer cam take 8-12 hours to expire, and getting after them too soon just results in jumping them from what would've been their death bed and usually losing them unless you have tracking snow or a dog.

Hopefully it doesn't happen again, but if it does, maybe let it go 8+ hours before trailing. During hunting season it's usually cool enough the meat won't spoil overnight, at least the majority will still be good.



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