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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651162
10/28/19 08:25 AM
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Just my 2 cents so take it for what its worth: To me it sounds like there was a process hit (one of the bones protruding from the side of the spine). Not necessarily a fatal shot, but it could be depending on if you hit a vein or artery along the spine.

I shot a buck one time who ducked the arrow. Like you said, Loud "crack" ran then flopped, got up and repeated this a few times within my line of sight. I had to track that deer nearly a 1/2 mile before I found him and get a 2nd arrow in him. Very little to no blood. And what blood we did find, was at about 4' high where the leaves wiped against his back. When we found last blood in the thick highbush honeysuckle and autumn olive, we would get down to ground level and look for the trail. We would each pick a different trail and follow it a few hundred yards. Not a fun track, but it did lead us to the deer. I assume the shock of the shot stunned the spine making them flop.

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: tlguy] #6651166
10/28/19 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tlguy
James, I've never heard of any expert recommending only waiting an hour to go after a gut shot deer. Those deer cam take 8-12 hours to expire, and getting after them too soon just results in jumping them from what would've been their death bed and usually losing them unless you have tracking snow or a dog.

Hopefully it doesn't happen again, but if it does, maybe let it go 8+ hours before trailing. During hunting season it's usually cool enough the meat won't spoil overnight, at least the majority will still be good.



x3. I always leave a gut/liver shot deer 8hr before we follow up. I'd hate to bump them and never find them. Usually the bed down pretty quick and expire close to water in my experience..

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651169
10/28/19 08:29 AM
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Agree with the rest. Myself after a shot with gun or bow if I have not seen the deer go down I usually get my stuff together and get out of stand. Wait about half hour and then go to where the animal was shot. Check the sign there and then determine if I need to walk out and wait or if I can start the trail. Always looking for indications as the trail is in progress. Dark blood is usually always liver or gut shot animal. Smell of the blood will determine which most of the time.

James I consider myself a good tracker as well. Over the years if there is going to be a trail on an animal in our large group myself and my father take up 95% of those tasks. Over the years we have lost 2 deer. One that was leg hit and most likely survived and one that was lost due to a heavy snow coming down and covering all sign. 100's of deer and a fair amount of those either leg hit or gut shot. When in doubt always let em lay. After that sheer determination, good tracking skills, attention to details, and a never give up attitude. Found them after a snowfall and one leg hit deer took us 8 hrs and parts of two days to catch up to and finish off.

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651205
10/28/19 09:18 AM
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I was using Kodiak 409 arrows and Razorback 2 blade without the bleeders. Heading out at 8:30 to see if I
Can put the puzzle together.



Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651207
10/28/19 09:21 AM
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Best of luck to you. Hope you find the deer.

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651279
10/28/19 10:50 AM
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Good luck and keep us posted.

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651314
10/28/19 11:57 AM
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any update?

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651364
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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651372
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Well after going back out there and looking at the arrow again, and blood. I think what happened was I hit
The spine bone and it shocked it and that’s what caused her to fall down. Found a few spots of blood where she was on the ground and where the arrow broke off which was just the broad head. Then followed her tracks for about 75 more yards where the water receded In swamp and was black silt so I know it was her and found a coupe specks
Along the way. She got into high ground and never found more blood. She never staggered after the first fall like I thought, so that’s the conclusion.

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Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651376
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Sorry, it happens. There is a big blood vessel along the spine so should could of bled out, hard to say for sure.

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: tlguy] #6651805
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Originally Posted by tlguy
James, I've never heard of any expert recommending only waiting an hour to go after a gut shot deer. Those deer cam take 8-12 hours to expire, and getting after them too soon just results in jumping them from what would've been their death bed and usually losing them unless you have tracking snow or a dog.

Hopefully it doesn't happen again, but if it does, maybe let it go 8+ hours before trailing. During hunting season it's usually cool enough the meat won't spoil overnight, at least the majority will still be good.

Yeah but I read in Outdoor Life that if...........

Re: Longbow hit deer question. [Re: NE Wildlife] #6651813
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Sorry you didn't find her. I agree with you about striking the spine. Either she hit the ground attempting to break off whatever she felt sticking out of her, or your arrow jacked up some nerves going to her shoulder. If the broad head stuck solid in a vertebra, she won't get hacked up with every step, and might survive it. Sleep well. She was probably scheduled to be hit by a car in the next week or two, anyway.

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