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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: coonman220] #6651498
10/28/19 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
So nafa is definately out ? I try find out if fha give advances or how much for advance? Long wait till there sale from end December until prompt date. I sure there is 2-3 week wait after sale for check


SAGA, who is taking over NAFA's farmed fur business has signified they have no interest in wild furs. Beyond that, it would be insane to trust NAFA at all this season. I strongly suspect a lot of trappers are going to get badly screwed by NAFA.

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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6651503
10/28/19 06:29 PM
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NAFA is not accepting wild fur for the upcoming season. It remains to be seen what will happen in future years. At least that is the way I read it.

Coonman220, if you are so concerned about advances and the long waiting period, why not sell to a local buyer. You walk in with your pelts and walk out with a check. No waiting. No second guessing what the market will be doing in March. With your section coon, you should do well selling to Groenwald or some one else locally.

Seems like a no brainer to me. I don’t understand why you are so set on shipping to an auction.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: coonman220] #6651507
10/28/19 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
So nafa is definately out ? I try find out if fha give advances or how much for advance? Long wait till there sale from end December until prompt date. I sure there is 2-3 week wait after sale for check


I haven’t shipped to NAFA for several years coonman. I found other options for selling my fur. It is good to have as many options as possible for marketing your fur. I may or may not use FHA in the future but it is good to know that there is an agent within 40 minutes of me. I agree with Keith above, you would have to be an idiot to ship furs to NAFA at this point. I’m glad I stopped shipping to them several years ago or I would be in the same boat as so many other trappers right now.

As far as advances go, I never took advantage of them when I shipped to NAFA. I simply waited for my furs to sell. Sometimes, like everybody else, I waited a very long time.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: wissmiss] #6651508
10/28/19 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
NAFA is not accepting wild fur for the upcoming season. It remains to be seen what will happen in future years. At least that is the way I read it.

Coonman220, if you are so concerned about advances and the long waiting period, why not sell to a local buyer. You walk in with your pelts and walk out with a check. No waiting. No second guessing what the market will be doing in March. With your section coon, you should do well selling to Groenwald or some one else locally.

Seems like a no brainer to me. I don’t understand why you are so set on shipping to an auction.

I just got email from fha, they can give advances, but as a rule, they do not, I not sure what want to do, groenwold likes wire stretch, I have boards, auctions may pay more for coon

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6651510
10/28/19 06:36 PM
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Wood vs wire - doesn’t make that much difference in the pelt when it comes back from the tannery.

If you figure in all the costs of selling at an auction, I don’t think pelts bring that much more, especially in a down market.

But to each his own. I’m sure you will figure out what to do.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: coonman220] #6651514
10/28/19 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
Originally Posted by wissmiss
NAFA is not accepting wild fur for the upcoming season. It remains to be seen what will happen in future years. At least that is the way I read it.

Coonman220, if you are so concerned about advances and the long waiting period, why not sell to a local buyer. You walk in with your pelts and walk out with a check. No waiting. No second guessing what the market will be doing in March. With your section coon, you should do well selling to Groenwald or some one else locally.

Seems like a no brainer to me. I don’t understand why you are so set on shipping to an auction.

I just got email from fha, they can give advances, but as a rule, they do not, I not sure what want to do, groenwold likes wire stretch, I have boards, auctions may pay more for coon



Dave I have sold thousands of board stretched coon to GFW. Both spots are good places to move coon. LLL


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: coonman220] #6651518
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Originally Posted by coonman220
Originally Posted by wissmiss
NAFA is not accepting wild fur for the upcoming season. It remains to be seen what will happen in future years. At least that is the way I read it.

Coonman220, if you are so concerned about advances and the long waiting period, why not sell to a local buyer. You walk in with your pelts and walk out with a check. No waiting. No second guessing what the market will be doing in March. With your section coon, you should do well selling to Groenwald or some one else locally.

Seems like a no brainer to me. I don’t understand why you are so set on shipping to an auction.

I just got email from fha, they can give advances, but as a rule, they do not, I not sure what want to do, groenwold likes wire stretch, I have boards, auctions may pay more for coon


Or they MAY not!!






Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6651527
10/28/19 06:53 PM
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The other nice thing about selling locally is you can decide to sell or not based on the price offered. If you're set on shipping your fur somewhere, you can ship it to Groenewold and they will contact you with a price and if you dont like it they will ship them back on their dime I believe. I have a GFW pickup 10 minutes from home so i never tried shipping.

You may want to seriously consider them if you're worried about waiting for payment.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: The Beav] #6651529
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Originally Posted by The Beav
And lots of NAFA agents are now with out a job. Those agents also put up a lot of fur that the trapper didn't want to deal with. So know there Is going to be lots of green fur that some one Is going to have to deal with. It's a slippery slope we are know treading On.

Seems to me that capitalism could work here. Guy has fur that needs put up and there is someone that still needs a job putting fur up. All they now need is to call one of many fur buyers who will be interested in buying them or they can ship to FHA or any state sale. NAFA was not the only outlet for fur for Pete's sake Beav. Also this way everyone will most likely get paid without waiting for a bad check so they can wait to hear all the lies about your check being in the mail.

Are you still shipping to them now beav? LOL, LLL


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6651552
10/28/19 07:37 PM
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I shipped for the last selling season and my check was good.
I have a outlet for some fur but the rest may go to groney. I sold some fur to him last year and was happy with my rat prices.

And there may be a new buyer setting up a route here In WI. But It's not a done deal yet.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6651577
10/28/19 08:00 PM
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Well, at least Boco can count on the government to pay subsidies. Heck, may even get a bail-out! grin


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: coonman220] #6651578
10/28/19 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
I not sure what want to do, groenwold likes wire stretch, I have boards, auctions may pay more for coon


Not true Dave. They use wire but I have seen a lot of boarded coons sold through them and Gary Groenwald specifically pointed out how great they looked.

How much money do you require in advances to feel you can trap?

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: coonman220] #6651590
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Originally Posted by coonman220
Originally Posted by wissmiss
NAFA is not accepting wild fur for the upcoming season. It remains to be seen what will happen in future years. At least that is the way I read it.

Coonman220, if you are so concerned about advances and the long waiting period, why not sell to a local buyer. You walk in with your pelts and walk out with a check. No waiting. No second guessing what the market will be doing in March. With your section coon, you should do well selling to Groenwald or some one else locally.

Seems like a no brainer to me. I don’t understand why you are so set on shipping to an auction.

I just got email from fha, they can give advances, but as a rule, they do not, I not sure what want to do, groenwold likes wire stretch, I have boards, auctions may pay more for coon


Rick Hemsath is probably an hour drive from you (Rowley, Iowa)and a good guy. He is a FHA agent. Groenewold buys all kinds of put up fur on wood. Know what you have in fur and an idea what you are willing to settle for. Cash check, no bounce. Don't like offer, walk with fur. Have it put up so YOU are in control, not 100 thawed coon hides.

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Coonman it might be a good idea to sell some of your catch local and ship some to FHA. That way you get some operating money and can test different markets to find out your new comfort level.


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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Coonman it might be a good idea to sell some of your catch local and ship some to FHA. That way you get some operating money and can test different markets to find out your new comfort level.


Sounds like good idea, don't sound like advances are common at all with fha , keep the mink, beaver an big better coon , maybe ? I heard somewhere or reading that groenwold likes wire stretch only, some pelts come with flaws other than skinning or knife cuts, with board, u can pin it shut, stitching is harder to do, which would have to on wire stretcher

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Groenewold will be my place to sell. NAFA is done with me.


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If I had gotten a bad check or had lots goods left there. I would have different feelings

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: trapper234] #6651827
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Originally Posted by trapper234
Groenewold will be my place to sell. NAFA is done with me.

Nafa is officially closing it’s doors Oct 31 it’s done

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Does any one know what is going to happen to the fur they have in their buildings.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Dirt] #6651840
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What's chapter 11?


You might want to google Chapter 11 liquidation. Google bankruptcy of a consignment company . It don't look good.


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