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Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653461
10/30/19 08:34 PM
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Thank you jk, James depends on your situation liquid hog manure and dry chicken litter mainly goes on in the fall here but when we had cattle and hogs we hauled 9 months out of the year, we planted some corn really late and then started chopping early just to haul. Bushmaster I take it you wondering the type and that would be soybeans, here it would probably be about a 50/50 spilt between feed and ethanol, but then they do feed distillers grain so not sure how to classify that. Bblwi I can only imagine that stress, dad and mom were in Milwaukee in early September for meetings and a wedding and they commented on how green everything was and that silage hadn’t been done yet.

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Re: Done combining [Re: James] #6653501
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Originally Posted by James
Hey, you farmers! What time of year should you spread manure on a field? Would November be okay, or is it more likely to be done in the spring?

I grew up in farm country, and can remember the smell when they were spreading manure. I kind of liked it, actually.

Jim


We try and get it on in the fall here. Get the ground ripped and let it set for the winter. We have to let the ground gather moisture and let the freeze-thaw breakdown the clods. In wetter country you could probably get by with spring application.


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Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653503
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Sitting in the semi right now. Finishing soybeans tonight. Took the prevent plant insurance option on a lot of corn acres, didn’t really even know about that until this year. Chopped some corn for silage, have someone coming to do earlage tomorrow. Trying to find ways to use the corn without combining the wet crap. Terrible greensnap, here, from two strong wind events. Another dose of wind a couple of weeks ago broke off some more crappy stalks. Need to get a bunch of stalk bales made yet for bedding and stock cow feed. All I’m getting out of this year is one year older........actually probably aged two years this year. Could be worse, though......

Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653511
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Thanks, guys. I need that info for a story. Mid-November is when I have it being spread, in central Kentucky, and it sounds like that time will work.

My Dad calls the smell "country perfume." We never lived where they raise hogs, though.

Jim


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Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653521
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Actually Pawnee up here its too wet and the clods can be the size of medicine balls or bigger, then the trenches start oh what a mess.

Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653532
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In our area we try hard NOT to have to spread in the spring. We get a late start to planing to begin with and taking time to haul and spread delays that a lot plus many try to go as soon as they can and many times a tad wet and more compaction. We need frost to loosen our red clay soil here. Many of our growing farmers however don't have capacity to hold enough manure to make it later. Many apply manure on winter wheat fields in August after harvest. We also have some put limited amounts 5,000 gallons or less on just cut alfalfa as a way to spread some and that does not utilize the N very well at all. Those with digesters spread a lot of the lower solids liquid on hay fields after 1-3 cuttings as it adds some moisture in the hot summer and helps yields. In the fall more and more manure is injected as applied. This takes longer to apply but then no other trips or issues if a big rain comes etc.

Bryce

Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653533
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We’re finished corn, got 320 acres soybeans left to cut. Hope to knock them out by end of next week. See how the weather cooperates. Haven’t seen them below 13% yet this fall

John

Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653539
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Very late planting around here with all the rain this spring. Decent amount of rain now too keeping everyone out of the fields. Cabbage is being picked from before daylight to well after dusk trying to get as much of it picked before this weekend. Lows in the mid teens Saturday. I would estimate only 80% of our fields locally have been planted and what did get planted the yields suffered a lot being so late. 75% of the corn and beans are still unharvested.


Re: Done combining [Re: LDW] #6653626
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Originally Posted by LDW
Done with beans 2 weeks ago. Tremendous yields, averaged 86 bushels an acre. One 160 acre field made 91. 3/4 done with corn, 1500 acres left. Yields are averaging 250 an acre. With a 12 row combine, it won't take long.

Wow, 91 bushels, 60 was a lot 40 years ago

Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653700
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Most guys spread their manure in the fall around here, but I have seen it done in the spring some too. I plant all pioneer soybeans and corn. I’m not 100% sure on where the soybeans go after we sell them to the elevator, but I know we have at least 3 ethanol plants within 50 miles of my farm, so the corns getting turned into fuel.

Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653790
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Yes 60 bushels is still well above the nations average. Most years the average yield for soybeans in the USA runs from the mid 40s to the low 50s. Yields over 75 bushels per acre are quite rare but great to get. That makes beans very competitive in the high yielding corn areas even, with the lower input costs. Our beans in our area this year will be much closer to half of the 91 bushels if that.

Bryce

Re: Done combining [Re: bblwi] #6653796
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Originally Posted by bblwi
In our area we try hard NOT to have to spread in the spring. We get a late start to planing to begin with and taking time to haul and spread delays that a lot plus many try to go as soon as they can and many times a tad wet and more compaction. We need frost to loosen our red clay soil here. Many of our growing farmers however don't have capacity to hold enough manure to make it later. Many apply manure on winter wheat fields in August after harvest. We also have some put limited amounts 5,000 gallons or less on just cut alfalfa as a way to spread some and that does not utilize the N very well at all. Those with digesters spread a lot of the lower solids liquid on hay fields after 1-3 cuttings as it adds some moisture in the hot summer and helps yields. In the fall more and more manure is injected as applied. This takes longer to apply but then no other trips or issues if a big rain comes etc.

Bryce

Just curious, how deep do they inject the liquid manure? Manure is surface spread on our land.


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Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653827
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I've been wanting to ask this question for a long time to a farmer and never had the opportunity. When you guys are combining corn, do you jump a lot of deer? The reason why I am asking is my property adjoins about 200 acres of corn and it hasn't been cut yet. I've been archery hunting and I haven't been seeing much lately, I'm just curious to what extent do deer hide/bed in standing cornfields?

Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653834
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Beans are all done & have about 30 ac of corn to go, but have got 2 3/4 in of rain in the last 2 days & it is still raining.


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Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653844
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Just got home from a South Dakota pheasant hunt the area where I hunted just started combining last Thursday it gave pheasant plenty hiding place. They said less than 10 percent of crops had been harvest so far,


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Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653846
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Heard on the weather this morning that some parts of Iowa could get up to 5" of snow. It looked like eastern Iowa.


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Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653865
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That could ruin a lot of snare locations

Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6653909
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PaRay, yes the deer do stay in the corn. When the corn gets picked you will start seeing more deer.


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Re: Done combining [Re: Kevin Stake] #6654006
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We try to inject at the bottom of the plow layer or about 8 to maybe 12 inches. We need to go deep enough so it can be covered over by the upper shovels and not ooze back out of the injection site and run in the field.
It is a slow process but we are also using big diesel pumps about every 1 to 1.5 miles and hooking those together and in some cases we can pump manure 2 plus miles and this keeps a lot of trucks off the roads which is really great from a safety and a road wear aspect. Our town roads were not made for thousands of semis with forage and manure going over them 6-9 months per year.
Just as an example if 1,000 cow herd with 800 heifers which we will equate to 1400 cows. With a liquid manure system we get 15K to 20 K of manure per cow per year so with 17k as the average that is about 24 million gallons per year. At 6,000 gallons per truck that close to 4,000 semi loads per year. If we harvest 10 tons of corn silage and 4 tons of haylage per cow that is 14 tons per cow or just shy of 200,000 tons. If we get 15 tons on each load that is 1,306 semi loads per year. I may be a bit low on the tons per load but you get the idea. That is just those two items. As one can see that is a lot of semi traffic coming and going from one large farm unit.
Sorry I was off by a factor of 10 on the silage semis.
Bryce

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Re: Done combining [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6654013
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Thanks, Bryce.


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