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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: PaRay] #6653938
10/31/19 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PaRay
Originally Posted by wissmiss
Beav - it seems like NAFA tells you a lot of things that they don’t tell any one else. Why do you suppose that is?

It is also interesting that of all the NAFA shippers on Tman that sold fur at the August sale, you are the only one that posted that your check did not bounce.

I, for one, have a difficult time believing anything you post that has to do with NAFA.



my check didn't bounce


My direct deposit was good.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6653944
10/31/19 12:19 PM
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What's the fur promoters game plan? Last time the former Soviet Union and China were the plan. Got some fur out of the last hole, for a few years. Europe is banning everything and the U.S. market is never gonna happen. Seems like the plan is cheap fur for cheap garments coming out of China. I don't see decent money in that?


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6653986
10/31/19 01:22 PM
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Maybe Warren Buffett will step in. Didn’t he always get motivated when there was blood in the streets?

Hudson Bay built an empire on being fur dealers. Then the auction system came along and caused this collapse. I suppose Hudson Bay knew the new model was flawed.

And dirt continued cheap fur trends will be our demise. The producers carry the load and get left behind.

Last edited by nimzy; 10/31/19 01:26 PM.
Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6653988
10/31/19 01:31 PM
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I stand corrected on Beav being the only person that did not get a bad check. Several others have stepped forward and indicated their check was good also. Probably just a matter of timing. Direct deposits were paid even before checks started hitting the banks.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6653991
10/31/19 01:37 PM
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Dang Nancy you're one of the few on here that ever owned up to a mistake! The rest of us just argue till we forget what the question was ?!

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6653994
10/31/19 01:43 PM
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Figured I would make that post before Beav had a chance to say “told you so”. smile


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: wissmiss] #6653997
10/31/19 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
I stand corrected on Beav being the only person that did not get a bad check. Several others have stepped forward and indicated their check was good also. Probably just a matter of timing. Direct deposits were paid even before checks started hitting the banks.


I beat you to It. LOL

Well guess what another good check has appeared I guess Jarrett must also be lying . I could name another 5 shippers from WI that had good checks but you wouldn't believe me. LOL


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6653998
10/31/19 01:53 PM
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Maybe Miss Wiss will comment on this. How much fur does Moscow Hide and fur buy?


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6654029
10/31/19 02:38 PM
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And wasn't it wissmiss who said all the negative rumors were just rumors?

Wild fur trappers didn't break the company, that leaves management and or the ranchers. Management must have floated huge loans to producers or possibly other entities.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6654051
10/31/19 03:06 PM
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I was calling nafa out 3 years ago for financing the flood of ranch mink. I quit them 4 years ago, for that very reason.
Glad I did.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: alaska viking] #6654068
10/31/19 03:26 PM
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Reminds me a lot of the old adage "Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered"

Bryce

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6654083
10/31/19 03:58 PM
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Ya all be sure to thank a FHA shipper for supporting a trapper owned auction house thats keeping the wild fur trade alive, over mink ranchers. And those of you that didn't support them at all, should be ashamed of yourselves.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: wr otis] #6654087
10/31/19 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wr otis
And wasn't it wissmiss who said all the negative rumors were just rumors?

Because they WERE rumors! No one knew what was really going on, but that didn't stop us (including me) from speculating on zero evidence. Just because the negative "rumors" turned out to be closer to the truth than not, doesn't change the fact that they were rumors.

Nancy was one of the few (the only one?) who took the more prudent approach and waited for more solid information - such that it was - before shooting. Good on her!

Last edited by mainer; 10/31/19 04:07 PM.

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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6654097
10/31/19 04:31 PM
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Someone said they were at fur school and talked to a NAFA employee and the truth would be out in 72 hours and the people on T Man didn't know what they were talking about.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: rex123] #6654248
10/31/19 07:31 PM
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Sorry Rex but I agree. Most people on Tman only express their opinion. thats ok! I do that too Right now there is no truth from nafa.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: The Beav] #6654257
10/31/19 07:44 PM
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If you think your fur will be returned please dont turn blue in the face. If you think you can even go get you fur, that aint gonna happen either. Is there an attorney among us? We need a class action suit that does not allow nafa to sell YOUR skins unless you get the proceeds. Somehow their plan is to sell whatever they can and try to get off the hook.I think if your fur gets sold and you dont get the proceeds they have broke the law. There is no pie in the sky. Demand to be paid for your skins when sold. We all need an attorneyon our side and there is enough of us to afford one.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6654262
10/31/19 07:49 PM
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Can't pay James if you don't have any money! wink


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6654284
10/31/19 08:16 PM
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Id not hire James to fix a flat tire.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6654297
10/31/19 08:27 PM
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He doesn't do tires. However, if you suffered a neck injury due to a faulty tire, well.........he might be your guy!


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6654306
10/31/19 08:33 PM
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I talked to someone today who had their Nafa check bounce, and they have little hope of getting a good one to replace it. Or of getting the bank fees covered. What Nafa did, or how they ended up where they are...... I don't know the background story and kinda doubt anyone does other than a few that are in the middle of it, just my humble opinion.

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