Unless they fill the atf with a bunch of liberal agents, that is far from the truth. Even then, the atf has nowhere near the man power needed to do so.

I never said all LE were bad. No group is all good or all bad. There are bad trappers, bad hunters, bad LE, bad anything. I was just sharing a news article about a situation I believed LE may have used a bit more force than necessary, and an innocent citizen gets hammered with a bill. I don't believe a citizen should need insurance against government actions against their private property.

Seems to me the city or local government should be the ones carrying the insurance policy if they can destroy your property without your permission. Just like almost all small businesses carry a 1-3 million liability policy. At least they have to if they want to get contracted for any work on another business' property.

I not the greatest at posting pictures here so maybe someone can help.
Google - Leo Lech house pictures

What they did to this guy's house is insane.

I did google the pictures so that is a $580,000 home? really and he can't rebuild or replace that for $340,000?

House prices are relative to area. Look how much a tiny , dumpy house costs in San Francisco. Getting that same house repaired is also very costly due to price of labor in that area.

In my area , you can't even get a professional tradesman to pull into your driveway for less than $125-$150. Then the price goes up from there. I had a friend who had a house in rural area in the Dakota's. He hired a handy man for a full day and it cost him $58. Handyman was probably happy to get the work.

What they did to that guys house was just nuts. Police had no concerns for the property owner. Total disregard. It was beyond repair. Starting over was most likely cheaper.

My area is pricey too. Lots of million dollar homes. Been in a couple that were in the 20 million range. People here can afford 100k kitchens, a lady a few towns over put in a 2.5million dollar swimming pool. There is a house 2 towns over that is worth 45million.

Not me , I'm not rich. I can barely afford what I have.

Yeah! This is the homeowners fault! Where is the sarcasm emoji? 19 hour shootout?? Good thing he didnt have hostages!

Wonder what the collateral damage, if any, was to other homes / vehicles nearby?

"For 19 hours, the suspect holed up in a bathroom as a SWAT team fired gas munition and 40-millimeter rounds through the windows, drove an armored vehicle through the doors, tossed flash-bang grenades inside and used explosives to blow out the walls."

And what does a police department need this kind of armament for? Why a shoplifter ... armed with a handgun) Sheesh!
Kinda reminds me of Waco, TX - and NO I don't agree at all with the Branch Davidian nonsense.

I could not figure out how to post a pic , but figured out how to post a short video.

The next Armored weapon for SWAT …

Property has no meaning when life is at stake. Use tear gas, grenades, tanks, air assault if you have to.....but the govt needs to pay the tab when the dust settles. Especially in this case where the owner of the home had (as reported anyhow) no connection to the suspect.

Armchair quarter backs (with zero experience) will cry and say "overkill, Abuse of power...bla bla bla". But anyone with any experience in this field knows that if you never give the bad guy a chance to wiggle, squirm, think of a plan, it is safer for both everyone involved (including the suspect). Sounds like they should have (if possible) used more force right away. The longer it goes, the more you have to ramp it up and the more dangerous it becomes for all.

Govt still should have paid their tab though. That's a shame.

Society makes the laws for law enforcement to enforce through legislatures. So what should law enforcement do? If you dont want LE to arrest a petty thief because they hide somewhere then change the law and become a society of cowards. Sound like a bunch of liberals whining because a shoplifters got arrested after making it home free by breaking in to someone elses house.

Yes I think the City should even up, but the grand scheme of things is in a flood the government can level your house to build a dike to save 5 others. Not a cent will you get as compensation.

How many on this forum talk about the horrid things they would do if they caught a trap thief, or ways to booby trap for trespassers, yet here arresting a thief using military tactics is too much?!?