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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6656130
11/03/19 10:06 AM
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https://thefurbearers.com/the-issues/trapping/canadian-statistics

According to this Canada produced 47340 coyotes in 2009. I don't have Ks coyote numbers by year but we produce an AVERAGE annual harvest of 80,000.

Bobcats harvested in 2009 were 1770 for the entire country of Canada. I can't get the bobcat pelt tagging report for KS to load but it is normally around 5000.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6656135
11/03/19 10:11 AM
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Beaver habitat? I trapped In Ontario and the beaver habitat was pretty slim. Now If you want to talk about beaver habitat lets talk about the South. With bit of work In 2 months one year my partner and I caught 386 beaver and 82 otter along with some greys and reds and cats.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6656142
11/03/19 10:21 AM
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I just dragged out my US Fur Harvest Statistics Book for 1970-1995.

1970 (Squirrel) 821,520 Michigan produced all those squirrels. In 1982-83 the total was 783,710 Michigan was still the only state that reported.

1970 (Weasel) 8,544 US total catch.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: The Beav] #6656153
11/03/19 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Beaver habitat? I trapped In Ontario and the beaver habitat was pretty slim. Now If you want to talk about beaver habitat lets talk about the South. With bit of work In 2 months one year my partner and I caught 386 beaver and 82 otter along with some greys and reds and cats.

That's why I was wondering about how many beaver the average Canadian trapper produced in a season. To catch a 100 beaver in a season in east Arkansas is no great feat. I just couldn't see how someone having to deal with trapping beaver under ice could compete with open water trapping through 98% of the season in beaver rich territory. Now if we're talking fur value that's a totally different story.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6656154
11/03/19 10:47 AM
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beav how did you get licensed to trap in Ontario?


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6656155
11/03/19 10:47 AM
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Welcome to the 21st century!


Who is John Galt?
Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6656157
11/03/19 10:51 AM
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Let’s all take a breather, and remember that the entire fur industry doesn’t revolve around Ontario.

Contrary to what some believe.

Alberta exported 42000 plus coyotes on average with 3000 licensed trappers per year. Last 5 years.

Even with out nafa. It’s business as usual here.

Looks nice out there this morning.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6656164
11/03/19 11:04 AM
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beautiful day here too,snowy cold,lets get this thing goin weather.furshop is about 80 and traps to be worked on while listenin to the radio.NAFAwho.com









Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Txcoonman] #6656165
11/03/19 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Txcoonman
Yup, Im tryin to figure out if they opened the gates and let people already start buying goods for pennies or not, or if there were just a few pt sales. I’ve got an October auction proceeds credit but no way to find out what sold. Does anyone have any info on that.

Y’all can start another thread to figure out how many beaver you can catch in Canada in a season and if your traps are legal and if you can trace em to make sure there legal and if you have the right license or on your on trapline etc.. kind of what I was getting at there

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6656168
11/03/19 11:08 AM
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I think it is raining and I have a pack of bald eagles killing my beaver/ and or holing them up. Got a picture of a 60" beaver the gang probably killed yesterday. Bet this stuff ain't in the Bible.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: cattails] #6656171
11/03/19 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by cattails
Originally Posted by Txcoonman
Yup, Im tryin to figure out if they opened the gates and let people already start buying goods for pennies or not, or if there were just a few pt sales. I’ve got an October auction proceeds credit but no way to find out what sold. Does anyone have any info on that.

Y’all can start another thread to figure out how many beaver you can catch in Canada in a season and if your traps are legal and if you can trace em to make sure there legal and if you have the right license or on your on trapline etc.. kind of what I was getting at there



LOL ….Can't help but think Boco is trying to distract everyone from the task at hand...Which is....Did the fur ranchers rip off the trappers and get away with it.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Txcoonman] #6656172
11/03/19 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Txcoonman
Soooo you guys wanna talk about nafa or everything else that comes to your mind?

what facts could possibly be stated about NAFA that have not already been hashed out in the last week 47 times each.

the handle done broke on the gravy train,accept it.









Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: pcr2] #6656178
11/03/19 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pcr2
Originally Posted by Txcoonman
Soooo you guys wanna talk about nafa or everything else that comes to your mind?

what facts could possibly be stated about NAFA that have not already been hashed out in the last week 47 times each.

the handle done broke on the gravy train,accept it.



Did you not read my last post, I’m fully aware of the whole situation, as of 2 days ago I have a fairly large October auction proceeds credit to my account which either means they sold a few cats or they opened the door to anyone who wants em with no bottom end. Do you have anything for that? That’s my question


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Dirt] #6656184
11/03/19 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
The bank is a secured creditor. Their obligation is to ensure that NAFA has the collateral to foreclose on in case things don't work out. I think they are doing this.









Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Txcoonman] #6656199
11/03/19 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Txcoonman
Yup, Im tryin to figure out if they opened the gates and let people already start buying goods for pennies or not, or if there were just a few pt sales. I’ve got an October auction proceeds credit but no way to find out what sold. Does anyone have any info on that.

Y’all can start another thread to figure out how many beaver you can catch in Canada in a season and if your traps are legal and if you can trace em to make sure there legal and if you have the right license or on your on trapline etc.. kind of what I was getting at there


You made me look at mine and a cat sold and is credited to my account for Oct. I'm sure they are scrambling to raise cash and we'll never see any of it.

Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: danny clifton] #6656201
11/03/19 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
beav how did you get licensed to trap in Ontario?


I had a friend I trapped with. We actually went and talked to the M&R and got their approval. But I couldn't take any critters home. Well they did let me take home a Marten and a Lynx. I guess I was considered a helper.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: spjones] #6656220
11/03/19 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spjones
Let’s all take a breather, and remember that the entire fur industry doesn’t revolve around Ontario.

Contrary to what some believe.

Alberta exported 42000 plus coyotes on average with 3000 licensed trappers per year. Last 5 years.

Even with out nafa. It’s business as usual here.

Looks nice out there this morning.


I feel the same ,,,looks beautiful out this morning.
It was a place for guys who had low grade fur a place too sell . For anyone else it was nothing but gambling.
Never sent a thing north In 50 plus years of trapping.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Actor] #6656229
11/03/19 12:42 PM
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Yep I just got the truck loaded with colony traps and 160s foot holds and DPs. Headed out tomorrow to catch some coon and rats.
No Idea what the coon will bring but the rats are going to bring a $10.00 nose count and If I sell them for $2.00 well It's going to be fun If I don't get froze out In 2 days.


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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Boco] #6656235
11/03/19 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
The basic fact remains today that with 10% of the trappers Canada produces the same amounts of harvest numbers overall as the USA,that is the point all along,and with all the bans in your country today It is highly likely even more today in the 21'st century.
..................there is no record of animals taken by usda or damage control in it!!!.those numbers are huge ....so how can you say that's accurate report? and it is way outdated!

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Re: NAFA Speaks again .... [Re: Wright Brothers] #6656239
11/03/19 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
Anyone have a NAFA update?........yeah they don't exist!
Sorry if OT.

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