Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: cattails]
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11/03/19 01:02 PM
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Can't help but think Boco is trying to distract everyone from the task at hand...Which is....Did the fur ranchers rip off the trappers and get away with it. Well, Of Course They Did !!! BOHICA !!!! w
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Tommie]
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11/03/19 01:13 PM
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Steven 49er
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I believe it's the opening day of trapping season today
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: walleyed]
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11/03/19 03:03 PM
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mink99
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Can't help but think Boco is trying to distract everyone from the task at hand...Which is....Did the fur ranchers rip off the trappers and get away with it. Well, Of Course They Did !!! BOHICA !!!! w How did ranchers rip off trappers? Someone dare to explain this one?
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: mink99]
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11/03/19 03:57 PM
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How did ranchers rip off trappers? Someone dare to explain this one? Wasn't NAFA majority owned by mink ranchers. ? Wasn't the majority of the NAFA Board of Directors comprised of Mink Ranchers ? Didn't that board of directors make decisions that bankrupted the company ? Didn't these Mink Ranchers make a decision NOT to pay trappers for their fur sold at Auction ? Did these Mink ranchers not conceal that fact, and make up excuses, withhold pertinent information, and string the trappers (victims) along ? Is this Ex-company of Mink Ranchers now holding unsold trapper fur hostage with no intention of paying for, or returning the fur to trappers? I'd say regardless of how NAFA's Mink ranchers got to where they are now, they certainly fit the description of ripping off trappers. w
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: wissmiss]
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11/03/19 04:32 PM
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While it is true that mink ranchers owned a major portion of NAFA. They were not the ones making business/financial decisions for the company.
Decision making was handled by upper level management. They are the ones that made bad decisions.
In my opinion, only your first two question deserves an answer of Yes. So the board of directors and WFSC had no say in any of this ? They were oblivious of the financial decisions made by the CEO ? When Herman Jansen was in charge, they didn't know what he was doing ? Seems hard to believe that with many millions dollars of Mink Rancher money at stake, nobody but Herman Jansen and Doug Lawson knew what was going on. Really ? Regardless of who made the Decisions, The board of Directors owned the company and the CEO's were their proxy to execute their wishes and business decisions. Bottom line is this. This Mink rancher owned company obviously gambled and lost big time, and dragged Innocent, hard working trappers down the rat hole with them. w
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: wissmiss]
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11/03/19 05:22 PM
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While it is true that mink ranchers owned a major portion of NAFA. They were not the ones making business/financial decisions for the company.
Decision making was handled by upper level management. They are the ones that made bad decisions.
In my opinion, only your first two question deserves an answer of Yes. Then what of Fiduciary Responsibility? I don't imagine Canadian companies are set up so differently than US companies. It is the board who is financially responsible for the company. It is their duty to know what decisions the CEO and upper level management is making, and to replace those people if they are making financially irresponsible decisions. No, I don't think you can pin this solely on the CEO and other management. It is their job to manage, and it is the boards job to make sure they are doing so correctly. The board is who is financially responsible for this mess. Technically, a good lawyer could go after the board members personal finances to pay back those that NAFA owes, even.
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Actor]
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11/03/19 05:59 PM
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Boco
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What have all you American armchair trappers been blathering about while I was out trapping?
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Boco]
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11/03/19 06:03 PM
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What have all you American armchair trappers been blathering about while I was out trapping? I was out eagle viewing. Only 11 eagles today. Must be running out of beavers. I should hire them out for ADC work.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Actor]
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11/03/19 06:12 PM
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Boco
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Hey PCR,I see bedsore bob came back while I was gone trapping.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
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11/03/19 06:28 PM
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danny clifton
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I been out butchering a hog. Everything in the freezer now. Lard is rendered bacon and ham is in brine. Bacon gets smoked next weekend and ham the week end after. Its about two weeks to early to start trapping here. When we do start though a few hundred trappers are going to pelt more coyotes and bobcats, right here in KS, than your whole country will produce Boco.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Boco]
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11/03/19 06:31 PM
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Hey PCR,I see bedsore bob came back while I was gone trapping. had to tell the wife what i was laughin so hard about so she didn't think i'd lost it even more than normal.
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
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11/03/19 06:43 PM
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MsgRet
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Just got in the house after skinning some muskrats.....wow...this blog is still going?
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Re: NAFA Speaks again ....
[Re: Actor]
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11/03/19 06:45 PM
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Boco
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Hey Danny,several thousand trappers here will have more fur than your piddlin little state produces in 10 years of all species caught and put up before your season even starts this year.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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