Re: The last generation of manufacturing
[Re: kyron4]
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11/06/19 07:07 AM
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In my area, manufacturing left 40 years ago. Now our county has the lowest income in the state. I used to run a maintenance shop. 15 years ago we would advertise for a maintenance mechanic and get 150 applicants. We'd interview 15 and everyone had the same story: Worked for XYZ industry for 30 years, let go when factory closed, can't find work. Today, we get almost no applicants. I guess that group either aged out or moved away.
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Re: The last generation of manufacturing
[Re: kyron4]
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11/06/19 07:12 AM
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Sure is sad. And the manufacturing that is left isnt paying too much either with not much chance of gaining more skills.
In 08-10 the shop I was at really slowed down. Very small family machine shop that started in the 30s. The newest machines were from the 50s. At the time there was just 4 or 5 guys. I watched many of our long time customers fold. Owners who were banking on selling their business to retire havung to sell machines instead. The owner' my dear friend asked if I was interested in buying the shop. I looked at the book's the were healthy but not vigorous and I looked at the future and trusted my gut. I instead went back to school and changed careers. I love what I do but I hate being at a desk. I think its making me crazy and its also terrible for my back. My buddy is still running the shop but almost just as a hobby and to keep one very longtime emoloyee working.
Id rather be actually making something but providing for my family comes first and sitting at that desk does that well. I cant wait to retire though and work on things I want to work on.
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Re: The last generation of manufacturing
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11/06/19 07:29 AM
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My son is working for a Japanese company here in the U.S. They have a big warehouse and distribution center up and running. Currently setting up a manufacturing and assembly facility. He has a hard time recruiting QUALITY employees. Lots of jobs out there. People who show up every day, on time, and put a little pride in their work, are in big demand. Some of things he tells me about people they hire and fire are astonishing.
I know a guy that constantly needs truck drivers for local work. Starts them out at 15 bucks an hour and wont pay overtime. Most work a week or two till they find something else. Tells anyone who will listen how he cant find people who will work. Companies starting drivers at 23-25 are always hiring too. If you cant find good help its because someone else is offering them a better deal. It will reverse again I am sure but right now people don't have to take anything offered if they are unemployed.
It took a long time to lose our manufacturing, steel production, textile industry and tanneries. It will be a slow process getting them all back. Assuming we can elect politicians who see a need for it rather than more socialism.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: The last generation of manufacturing
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11/06/19 07:42 AM
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Back in 08 I lost my job as a Moldmaker, out of work for 8 months, first place I applied said they would love to have me but were scared. Eight months later they called and I was back to being a leadsman, could not believe after 35 years building molds it took that long to find a job. I was applying for jobs at Home Depot and any other place. Unemployment only paid for my COBRA insurance, and eight years later that place, folded and was bought up by another outfit. I stayed 5 months till 62 and retired, best thing I did. Would be nice if fur prices were higher, always will trap some.
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Re: The last generation of manufacturing
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11/06/19 07:53 AM
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If you can make it to the south side of Indianapolis, the company I work with is ALWAYS looking for a good machinist/tool maker. We have enough button pushers, unless you wanna work night shift. We desperately need guys who can write programs, plan processes, make workholding fixtures, and do setups. We work on a lot of defense and aerospace applications that cannot be sent overseas. We do a lot of medical device manufacturing also, which seems to be fairly recession resistant.
PM me if interested.
What from Christ that soul can sever, Bound by everlasting bands? None shall take thee From the Strength of Israel's hands.
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Re: The last generation of manufacturing
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11/06/19 10:38 AM
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Sad deal for sure. The lawsuits are a big part of the problem. It's why many companies are either closing down or out-sourcing. It's tough for a small business to defend itself against attorneys who will be willing to work for free. If you want to see the devil, sit in a court room with an attorney suing for no reason. The other problem is regulations. I know of a second generation casting company in business since 1929, that burnt down. Between regulations and threats of lawsuits, they would not let them rebuild the building. So, off to China. The school system has been pushing for everyone to go to collage. Well you need someone to do the work and they made it an embarrassment to work with your hands in a trade. Pushing a dagger through the heart of America.
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