Re: WI 2019 to 2020
[Re: tlguy]
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11/06/19 11:19 AM
11/06/19 11:19 AM
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Makes me wonder if the northern guys that pushed for a single season so they wouldn't get line jumpers are happy now that they lost 2 weeks of open water trapping in the fall.
Who were these N.WI. trappers that were pushing for it? I'd like to know. Seems like it's guys from S.WI that want to keep jacking w/ the season dates. And, from what I see, there's not much trapping happening this year...it's foolish with the market the way it is. I wasn't happy about the later season start, but I learned to adapt and now I'm glad it's the way it is.
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Re: WI 2019 to 2020
[Re: CableAble]
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11/06/19 11:46 AM
11/06/19 11:46 AM
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tlguy
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I honestly don't know who pushed for the change to a single zone, I guess I am assuming it was guys in the northern zone that didn't want southern guys long lining on "their turf" when the northern zone opened a week (or sometimes 2) before the southern zone opened. But if you know guys in the southern part of the state that were pushing for a single season that started later, maybe I'm wrong. Wouldn't be the first time and won't be the last.
And you're right, someone looking to go out and make a bunch of money trapping probably isn't doing too much this year. But what about the older guys getting their feet wet getting back into it now that they're retired? Or the kids that took my trapper ed course this summer so they could trap for the first time this year? I'd wager this sport is predominately what I would consider hobby trappers, guys that enjoy setting traps and making a few bucks, knowing full well that by the time they factor in the cost of equipment, gas and wear and tear on their vehicles and their own time, they're losing money. In a time when trapper numbers are dwindling, whether it's due to political pressure, depressed fur market, or whatever, shouldn't we be fighting for more opportunity, not shrugging our shoulders at the status quo which has turned into a loss of opportunity?
It's great that you've found a way to adapt to the current season framework and are still stacking up the rats. But the guy with 3 little kids that like to tag along and help make sets and check traps is SOL when the open water is gone just a few days after season opens. I'll tell him he just needs to adapt.
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Re: WI 2019 to 2020
[Re: Kre]
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11/06/19 12:30 PM
11/06/19 12:30 PM
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WIMarshRAT
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Who were these N.WI. trappers that were pushing for it? I'd like to know. Seems like it's guys from S.WI that want to keep jacking w/ the season dates.
And, from what I see, there's not much trapping happening this year...it's foolish with the market the way it is. I wasn't happy about the later season start, but I learned to adapt and now I'm glad it's the way it is.
Here is the original resolution submitted in Portage County with the help of the old Fur Biologist, John Olson. Mike trapped just north of 64 and thus his interest. https://dnr.wi.gov/About/WCC/Documents/spring_hearing/2011/Resolutions/500111.pdfOne thing became clear. Folks in the north and south have different priorities. What is opportunity for one is a liability for the other. Folks in the north saw it as a way to limit competition and folks in the south didn't want to start that early. Compromise is what we ended up with and will likely be left with for the foreseeable future. I am with Kre now, best to just learn to adapt and deal with it. Some years you get a later common opener and some years you get earlier common opener. Some years we get ice and some years we open water trap into December. Glad to see some folks out there enjoying their time in the field regardless of dates or weather patterns. Haven't set a trap yet, but my little guy can't wait to be back out there pounding away....
Last edited by WIMarshRAT; 11/06/19 01:15 PM.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass...it's about learning to dance in the rain!
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Re: WI 2019 to 2020
[Re: Kre]
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11/06/19 12:34 PM
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Muskrat
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. . . Who were these N.WI. trappers that were pushing for it? I'd like to know. Seems like it's guys from S.WI that want to keep jacking w/ the season dates. . . . The history of the WTA is lost on you.
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Re: WI 2019 to 2020
[Re: CableAble]
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11/06/19 07:01 PM
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I am in Douglas County Bryce. We had a couple of inches a few days ago but its gone now.
Steve WTA NRA
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Re: WI 2019 to 2020
[Re: CableAble]
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11/06/19 07:59 PM
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Well that's it for me for a while to bad stupid weather oh well! Be under the ice soon enough probably next week Got another 63 pulling putting my total at 806 only got to check traps 7 times is what it is I guess Nice cat to!
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Re: WI 2019 to 2020
[Re: CableAble]
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11/06/19 08:18 PM
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The Beav
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My warden crew caught 11 rats 2 coon and I grinner today. We pulled do to the up coming freeze up.
Finished the day with the warden class and they skinned 14 otter and about the same number of beaver.
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Re: WI 2019 to 2020
[Re: CableAble]
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11/06/19 10:15 PM
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Trap Setter
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Nice cat Steve R!!! What's the story... set location ect
Life sure is tough when you don't learn from the mistakes of others.
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Re: WI 2019 to 2020
[Re: CableAble]
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11/06/19 10:33 PM
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Nice bobcat!!
I wish we had those around here, maybe an occasional pass through but that's about it.
So CableAble, you going to sleep one of these days!! I know you're far younger than me but even when I was that age, I couldn't manage your hours and your management strategy-- do you have all your rat traps gps'd...?
I didn't read through the dteails on your Wisconsin north vs south water opener but it sure seems there is a lot of regulation and details in your state's trapping situation. Perhaps that comes from a much larger number of sportsmen in WIsconsin (don't you guys field like a million deer hunters each year?) or maybe its the DNR type of agency mentality that loves all the bureaucratic rules-- our DNR here only deals with water quality, not wildlife or fisheries, I don't really know. Our trappings regs are about 3 pages and that's all. No real micro management of this or that. I feel for you all in such details but given that half of Wisconsin is radical leftist tree huggers, having to deal with the WI DNR's lengthy rule book is probably the price to pay for being able to trap fairly openly in your state. There's a lot of other states where the Neo-fastist left has won and trappers are basically neutered. Good luck on staying in the lane and keeping your trapping tradition pretty much intact!!
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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