Re: Fur prices this year....
[Re: Canvasback2]
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11/09/19 08:35 PM
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Coyote and fox probably ok. Everything else is up in the air until the dust settles from all this.
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Re: Fur prices this year....
[Re: Canvasback2]
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11/09/19 08:44 PM
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It wont affect the demand(or lack of) for fur at all.
Last edited by Boco; 11/09/19 08:45 PM.
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Re: Fur prices this year....
[Re: Canvasback2]
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11/09/19 08:56 PM
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It will possibly be ruled by who they sell to. If they have their own main sources, other than NAFA. I don't have any idea, any more, who some of the major players in the fur industry are. I suppose it will depend on the location where you live. We know the Groeny is in the upper Midwest and I am sure he buys fur many local buyers.
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Re: Fur prices this year....
[Re: Bob]
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11/09/19 09:10 PM
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Coyote and fox probably ok. Everything else is up in the air until the dust settles from all this. What makes you think fox prices are ok? You like $7 fox?
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Re: Fur prices this year....
[Re: Canvasback2]
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11/09/19 09:55 PM
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Boco
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They are already on the market,and have been for a while. When the prices start to rise again,a lot of fur being held by trappers could delay the recovery a bit.Depends on actually how much trappers have socked away.
Last edited by Boco; 11/09/19 09:58 PM.
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Re: Fur prices this year....
[Re: Canvasback2]
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11/09/19 10:11 PM
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Won’t affect coyote or rats there are solid orders in the country, won’t affect mink and fox because there’s no market anyway. Better prepare for a tough coon market, tougher then it has been
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Re: Fur prices this year....
[Re: Canvasback2]
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11/10/19 01:42 AM
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I catch the market wants only at salvage prices, but I don't lose weight or gain aerobic health setting down reading the markets. Making the old body work for it is part of the appeal. Not just eating chips and farting on the couch, although my lower palm below my thumb wouldn't have gotten bite by a Bridger 110 watching tv today...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: Fur prices this year....
[Re: Canvasback2]
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11/10/19 06:01 AM
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Looks like they only give their selves a few minutes at each stop. How does that work if you bring a lot of stretched fur? Do they actually take time to look it over and screw up their schedule? Are they driving a semi with a refer for the carcass guys? Logistics of all that must be a real nightmare. Makes me reluctant to go on a 150 mile round trip and hope for the best. I figure it costs about 50 cents a mile to drive a pickup. Shipping would be easier and about the same cost.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Fur prices this year....
[Re: Canvasback2]
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11/10/19 11:15 AM
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What I can't figure out is why recreational trappers who are going to trap even if there is no market for their product keep looking at these price threads. I remember some of the biggest complainers about NAFA's low clearances or no limit sales were guys that will trap at any price anyway. If you're going to trap, no matter what the price, why do you care what stuff sells for or even if it sells since it obviously doesn't change what you will be doing?
I track price for a reason. I need to know whether trapping will be worth ( financially) the effort. ( hard work, wear and tear on equipment and my body). Price changes my behavior.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Fur prices this year....
[Re: Canvasback2]
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11/10/19 11:23 AM
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Boco
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You are shortsighted,not considering the long game and protection of investment by management,which is just as important in years of lower prices. You cannot manage the resource effectively based solely on the price of fur.
Last edited by Boco; 11/10/19 11:24 AM.
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Re: Fur prices this year....
[Re: Canvasback2]
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11/10/19 11:48 AM
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coyote muskrat skunk ok the rest no good.
24coyotes,4 coon 3 grey fox,118muskrats,4 mink,6 fisher 23 beaver , 10 otter,4 bobcat
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Re: Fur prices this year....
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11/10/19 12:14 PM
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What I can't figure out is why recreational trappers who are going to trap even if there is no market for their product keep looking at these price threads. I remember some of the biggest complainers about NAFA's low clearances or no limit sales were guys that will trap at any price anyway. If you're going to trap, no matter what the price, why do you care what stuff sells for or even if it sells since it obviously doesn't change what you will be doing?
I track price for a reason. I need to know whether trapping will be worth ( financially) the effort. ( hard work, wear and tear on equipment and my body). Price changes my behavior. Dirt- I think there are very few recreational trappers who would trap "at any price" unless they are protecting their livestock or their property from some sort of damage. I think the difference is between you and many recreational trappers is that they're willing to come down to break even or below cost of production for the "fun" but you, as a business man, won't. I stopped running a winter mink line 7+ years ago because for as much as I like catching mink, I couldn't justify the gas money, even for my fun. If only super nice 3xl or 4xl coon will be pushing $15 finished this year, and everything else below $10, I wouldn't be going after coon. Sooner or later, even the skinning machine green coon sellers will mostly fall out if those go less than a $5 average or at least a person would think so. I'm willing to trap mrats at north of a $2.50 average because I like it and can still recover my costs and maybe pay for a nice dinner for my bride later but I won't trap rats at a buck a piece. I think there is a limit for most guys. My state only has about 1,800 license trappers nowadays and I'm sure most of that is driven by price. As for Boco's "you have to trap to manage furbeaer species", in a lot of states, that just isn't true. My state couldn't really give 2 s***s if furbearer numbers rise or fall, except that the state trappers would have to do more work for yote and beaver control (the 2 species that they get the most damage calls on). With the exception of bobcat, my state government's wildlife agency really couldn't care less, and probably rightfully so, about furbearers.
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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