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Re: Brain tanners? [Re: AKAjust] #6660024
11/07/19 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AKAjust
I heard you have to be careful because of cwd.
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I use pork brains. Can't hardly get cow Brain now either, but pork brains are still sold for eating.


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Re: Brain tanners? [Re: Antelope Montana] #6660030
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You do great work PA skinner.


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Re: Brain tanners? [Re: Antelope Montana] #6660160
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Originally Posted by Jonnytrapper


I never did with deer hides but when I got into tanning other stuff like raccoons I found it helped a lot. Easy and cheap to do too.

Yes I pickle furs. You don't have to, but I agree it's easier. Deer hides for buckskin get " bucked" instead. Using lye, possasium hydroxide or wood ashes and water to raise the pH instead of lowering it. It has to be thoroughly rinsed out. Baking soda works well to neutralize, plus moving water, washer or what have you.
Again, you don't have to use the alkaline solution, but if done right, it makes softening easier.


Thank you. I have always pickled furs, didn’t know if I needed to pickle the deer skins.


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Re: Brain tanners? [Re: Antelope Montana] #6660172
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I tan some smaller coons for my daughter for crafts. The first time I did it I over pickled. Even after I thought I neutralized it the pelt would leave your hands tingly when working with it.

So....its important to actual check the pH and not just guess.

I use pork brains in a blender. To smoke I hang them in the yard shed and smoke using a contained hot olate and chips.

Re: Brain tanners? [Re: Antelope Montana] #6660195
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For pickling furs, what type of solution are you using? And do you do anything to get the grease out of raccoons before you pickle? I have only brain tanned deer hides into buckskin. I am guessing the pickling step replaces the bucking step.

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Originally Posted by k snow
For pickling furs, what type of solution are you using? And do you do anything to get the grease out of raccoons before you pickle? I have only brain tanned deer hides into buckskin. I am guessing the pickling step replaces the bucking step.

I have had good luck with Rittels safety acid.... you want to check the pH at first. It can go up when you first add the hides. Citric acid works, even vinegar, but vinegar is a very weak acid. Alum is probably the most common used pickle. I know others will tell you different, but I usually don't degrease. Flesh them very well.


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Re: Brain tanners? [Re: Antelope Montana] #6660271
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I dont degrease but I do comb borax through and tumble.

I use citric acid from Menards in the canning department.

Re: Brain tanners? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6660294
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PAskinner you're right about the vinegar being weak but that's what I use with citric acid. Straight vinegar is around 2.5ph I think. I like to get that down to below 2 (1.5ish) before I add the hides as like you say it will raise a bit when you do. I like to take them out of the pickle after a couple days and re flesh.

Re: Brain tanners? [Re: Antelope Montana] #6660325
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i use alum, get it in the garden section. i have used vinegar instead of water- reduces the amount of alum needed to get down to 1.5-2. i have degreased with dawn dish soap but i usually dont. and when brain tanning i dont pickle.
for smoking i have a smokehouse i use. its about the size of an outhouse. i pipe the smoke in from my fire(smoldering) to make sure its cold smoke! i built a rack above the pipe inlet and lay the hide on it. then i cover the hide with a sheet to hold the smoke in. its not perfect and takes a little longer to get good penetration but it works

Re: Brain tanners? [Re: Antelope Montana] #6660558
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Young bull moose hide


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Re: Brain tanners? [Re: Antelope Montana] #6660563
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[Linked Image]
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Framing big hides helps. Nice unsmoked caribou notice the bot fly scars.


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Re: Brain tanners? [Re: drasselt] #6660777
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Originally Posted by drasselt
[Linked Image]


Young bull moose hide

Nice, I've done a lot of elk, but moose are crazy thick. [Linked Image]
I try to avoid the bulls and mine are farmed elk hides.


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Re: Brain tanners? [Re: Antelope Montana] #6661852
11/10/19 12:39 PM
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ive been wanting to try that frost scraping. I might make a frame to attach to my cabin this year and give it a try. any ideas on what to use for a scraper?

Re: Brain tanners? [Re: Antelope Montana] #6662075
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Thanks PA. I'm sure I'll never tan as many as you!


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Re: Brain tanners? [Re: trapper20] #6662078
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Originally Posted by trapper20
ive been wanting to try that frost scraping. I might make a frame to attach to my cabin this year and give it a try. any ideas on what to use for a scraper?


Well these (http://www.braintan.com/mm5/merchan..._Code=DRYSCRAPER&Category_Code=Tools) are skookum dry scrapers and they might work for frost scraping I don't know. I flesh on a beam then frame and dry the big hides for graining. I use a sharp filet knife to shave off the moose hair before I grain it with the dry scraper.


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