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Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663147
11/11/19 09:49 PM
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NO, its not your responsibility to hide your sets. People aint suppose to steal.

Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663149
11/11/19 09:56 PM
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Run traps at different times if possible, use drags or slides to put them in the bush, and use older/cheaper traps in high traffic areas.


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Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: lumberjack391] #6663154
11/11/19 10:05 PM
11/11/19 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
NO, its not your responsibility to hide your sets. People aint suppose to steal.


I wish that was the case. Different generation than I was brought up to. People have changed.


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Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663190
11/11/19 10:53 PM
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I remember a case of frontier justice my dad told me about,this happened in the 30's or 40's.Seems a local yahoo was stealing muskrat traps from a family,real hill billies that had no problem taking matters into their own hands.They waited him out one night and when he lifted the first set one of them drew a bead with his .22 and shot him in the throat.They didn't bother calling the law on him,they left him for dead.It didn't kill him but it took out his voice box.When I was a young un I remember him in the local store pointing and grunting at things,dad told me years later what had happened to him.Bet he didn't steal any more traps after that.


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Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663214
11/11/19 11:10 PM
11/11/19 11:10 PM
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Bonner County, Idaho
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Actor, Buck and Possum Man, great stories. It really sucks about trap thieves. If I had more private land to trap I'd be all over it. Haven't built those landowner relationships yet though. And I know trap theft can happen on private land as well. It just sucks. Getting up 0300 to run the line tomorrow. Hopefully there will be more fur in traps than there will be stolen traps. I'll post an update sometime tomorrow. These last 2 make 4 stolen traps this year. 2 coyote coils springs and 2 coon traps (DP and a 1.5 coil).


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Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663228
11/11/19 11:46 PM
11/11/19 11:46 PM
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I avoid people like the plague. Probably why my traps don't disappear or my animals. While it is not my responsibility to hide my sets, it sure is prudent.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663257
11/12/19 12:28 AM
11/12/19 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild_Idaho
Actor, Buck and Possum Man, great stories. It really sucks about trap thieves. If I had more private land to trap I'd be all over it. Haven't built those landowner relationships yet though. And I know trap theft can happen on private land as well. It just sucks. Getting up 0300 to run the line tomorrow. Hopefully there will be more fur in traps than there will be stolen traps. I'll post an update sometime tomorrow. These last 2 make 4 stolen traps this year. 2 coyote coils springs and 2 coon traps (DP and a 1.5 coil).

I know this isn't going to help but my record is 17 muskrat traps stolen in one night.Had them take 3 beaver traps at one site,that included a 48 Newhouse.You can't stop all of it,but by being very careful about where and how I set(all flat sets,no flashy dirt holes),and by doing some serious back tracking to where I could set on sign but away from people I all but eliminated theft.I've lost some locations but it can't be helped.There are areas that have good predator sign,but people play there too,and theres no way your going to set it up with out wading into a whole host of problems,thats just the way it is.


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Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663313
11/12/19 07:05 AM
11/12/19 07:05 AM
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Wisconsin
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There comes a time when you need to deal with the thief in a one-on-one basis. Like the old DNR saw . . . Plan your hunt, hunt your plan. Think about a thief's number one concern: public exposure. It might take a chunk out of your trapping season, but will pay off in the long run. Your best weapon is a camera, but come prepared with a good friend or two and an equalizer.

If thieves are this active with fur prices this low, imagine what it would be like if fur prices were back on track.

Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: ~ADC~] #6663412
11/12/19 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
BS! People need to learn to leave stuff alone that doesn't belong to them. I see other peoples property on public land all the time and I don't steal it.


That is our dream ADC. That is our dream.
But people have always wanted "something for nothing" and I suppose some always will

Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Dirt] #6663488
11/12/19 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I avoid people like the plague. Probably why my traps don't disappear or my animals. While it is not my responsibility to hide my sets, it sure is prudent.

I too have unfortunately learned my lesson to avoid people. Some years ago,had two "fellow trappers" confront me on my beaver line at a location and informed me
that this location was theirs. I kept my sets there,and as long as I had them there, they had sticks in them every day. Game Commission said to leave area since these guys were
bad news and it would be difficult to prove it was them. I went "remote",walking back into remote areas to avoid people,which has cut into a numbers harvest but has given me
more of a sense of security because I knew at some point that I would lose my cool. I have since learned that these guys no longer trap as one has moved and one has physical issues.
The lesson for me has been to,as Dirt says, "avoid people".

Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: trapdog1] #6663537
11/12/19 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
For some reason people who would normally not steal anything will pick up a trap.


So much truth to this, just something about a trap "just laying there"


Antelope, the original fast food!!
Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663546
11/12/19 11:07 AM
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I was trapping for the federal fish hatchery. I was trapping everything. I had a trap under the water set for muskrat. I caught a crane. Before I got there. This guy got the crane out. Took my trap up threw in the deeper pool of water. Another guy watched him. I came down looking for my trap. The other guy told me what happened. So I called the game warden. He came down fount the guy. The guy told him he done it. Because I caught the crane. The game warden told him he couldn't do that. He got 2 tickets. One for hunter harassment and other theft of property. Plus he made the guy go out in the pool of water and find my trap. He told him it happened again. The fines would 2× more and may get a trip to jail. I just wanted my trap back. It was a mongenty 1.5 coil spring older trap. Good rat trap.

Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663638
11/12/19 12:50 PM
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Out of sight out of mind. Trapping is not a spectator sport ( for lack of a better term!)


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Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663743
11/12/19 02:20 PM
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No stolen traps today. Did move a few around. Picked up a couple of beaver.


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Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663751
11/12/19 02:34 PM
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I lost a trap Saturday morning on my family farm. Not first trap stolen but on family farm within site of the Bldgs


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Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: trapper4002] #6663797
11/12/19 03:22 PM
11/12/19 03:22 PM
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Bonner County, Idaho
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Originally Posted by trapper4002
I lost a trap Saturday morning on my family farm. Not first trap stolen but on family farm within site of the Bldgs


Sucks about the trap. On a lighter note, Semper Fi, Jarhead! Happy belated birthday.


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Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6663808
11/12/19 03:41 PM
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The bad thing about most trap thefts or so it seems anyway is that many who take traps are trappers themselves. I as a trapper can find other trapper sets rather easily. I can tell when someone is in and out of a drive every day, see the path humans make thru leaves or grass, see tracks in the creek mud in shallow clear water, pocket sets, dirthole sets, etc. As long as someone sets traps there will always be someone who (even though it against several laws to steal) steals some somewhere. Trail cameras help. Catching someone in the act also seems to make a good case for giving someone a reason not to steal my traps anymore. Just be careful not to get in trouble yourself over a $15 trap. I have had some taken over the years, all from private property where I had permission. Used to let it bother me, to the point of thinking everyone who drove the roads or hunted or trapped was guilty of stealing my gear. Not no more. If it happens I will try to solve "who done it". But now unless someone confesses or you see your gear in someone else's gear I let it be. Should not happen but it does. I only hope the thief was a youngster who "grows" out of the foolishness of his youth thing someday and becomes a fine citizen. Just my 2 cents worth.


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Re: Re-thinking Trap Theft [Re: ~ADC~] #6663822
11/12/19 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
BS! People need to learn to leave stuff alone that doesn't belong to them. I see other peoples property on public land all the time and I don't steal it.

My views Exactly


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