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Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Lugnut] #6663308
11/12/19 06:55 AM
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Some people wouldn’t feel the urge to chastise someone because they had to park north and south instead of east and west even though the distance to the door is not much difference. By the same token, not everyone sees the end of a threat the same.


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Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: K52] #6663435
11/12/19 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by K52


Maybe what's not a deadly threat to you is to somebody else. When you chose to get physical with somebody you just opened Pandora's box. You have no idea of their mental state and things can spiral out of your control in a blink of the eye. Doesn't matter what should be reserved for what, rational thought just went out the window. Doesn't matter who's right, you can end up dead if you choose to lay hands on another man.


I'd agree that anytime you get physical, rational thought goes out the window and you can't predict the outcome. But that doesn't mean getting shoved to the ground constitutes a threat to your life justifying deadly force. Maybe you could make that argument if you were a 120 lb woman shoved to the ground by a 200lb man who just told you he wants to kill you. But if you're a man shoved down by a man who told you to get away from his girl, and then that guy backs u, that's absolutely not a threat to your life.

But, again if agree with hat if you decide to shove someone, they might pull again and blast you, and it will not matter if they were justified or not when you're six feet underground.

Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Lugnut] #6663466
11/12/19 09:48 AM
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Threats open the door to perceptions.

I’m reminded of an incident years ago where a guy (A) called the house of his ex-wife and tells the guy (B) that answered that A is coming over to kill B.

B. Answers the door holding a shotgun. A brief exchange of unpleasantries and A pulls a .357 and fires, blowing B’s arm off at the bicep. B, raises the shotgun, steadies with the nub and blast A dead center in the chest. A bleeds out in the front yard, B bleeds out sitting at the kitchen table.

Less than 5 minutes from the time the phone call was made. It would seem that B should have immediately called the police and refuse to open the door even though doing so would have possibly only prolonged the inevitable, possibly causing B to live in a disturbed state wondering “when.” If B had opened the door and blasted him, he would probably be in jail.

Not comparing what happened in the original post, just pointing out that things aren’t always as cut and dried as they appear when it comes to human behavior.


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Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Lugnut] #6663484
11/12/19 10:07 AM
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I don't understand why the shooter was there for so long? Say your thing and move on. The guys actions irritated me but without audio its hard to say what she was saying back.

Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: lumberjack391] #6663498
11/12/19 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
I don't understand why the shooter was there for so long? Say your thing and move on. The guys actions irritated me but without audio its hard to say what she was saying back.


No audio? I thought the guy said get away from my wife?


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Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Lugnut] #6663504
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I don't have any audio on mine. What did the shooter/woman say to each other?

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Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Boco] #6663508
11/12/19 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I avoid these kind of hassels by limping a bit when I park in the handicap spot.


I don't doubt that a bit.

If this is true then you are human trash, BOCO.

Part of my job is enforcing the handicap parking space rules where I work.

It boggles my mind when perfectly healthy people with no handicap credentials,

wheel into a parking space reserved for wheel chair bound people and leave,

tying up the space for a whole day.

Then when they return and find a ticket on their windshield, they hunt me up and

whine and cry that they got a ticket.

I have zero tolerance for low lifes that figure the rules don't apply to them.

They really don't like it when I whistle up "The Hook", and their car is missing

and they have to pay the ticket, the New York State surcharge,

AND the $100.00 + towing fee.

They smarten up real quick after that, LMAO !!! laugh


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Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Lugnut] #6663547
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Regardless of how big are a shove to the ground or a single punch could end your life.if u wait to find out if it does or doesn’t it may be to late.if your blind sided and shoved to the ground and hit your head and become dazed with a firearm on your side that could be taking and used against you ,you may very well of shot him to.

Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Lugnut] #6663551
11/12/19 11:10 AM
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HA HA HA,Walleyed is a Mall Cop,LOLOLOL.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Boco] #6663562
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Originally Posted by Boco
HA HA HA,Walleyed is a Mall Cop,LOLOLOL.


NOPE.

Just try loafing in a handicap parking space without proper credentials

down here in Northern New York with Canadian, Ontario tags

and they'll never find your body, Eh ? laugh

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Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Harvester] #6663565
11/12/19 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Harvester
Regardless of how big are a shove to the ground or a single punch could end your life.if u wait to find out if it does or doesn’t it may be to late.if your blind sided and shoved to the ground and hit your head and become dazed with a firearm on your side that could be taking and used against you ,you may very well of shot him to.

That's all true, but that's not what happened in this case. The guy that got shoved didn't hit his head or get knocked out. He *maybe* had cause to pull the gun and point it after he got shoved, for all he knew the guy was going to jump on him and pound his head into the ground a la trayvon Martin, , but once the guy backed up, I here was no justification to shoot.

Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Lugnut] #6663566
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I'll be able to outrun you with your gimpy leg.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Boco] #6663569
11/12/19 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
HA HA HA,Walleyed is a Mall Cop,LOLOLOL.


Are you implying there is something special about being a railroad laborer?


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Boco] #6663571
11/12/19 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I'll be able to outrun you with your gimpy leg.


You can run but you can't hide....and you'll only die tired (and Canadian)!!! laugh

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Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: lumberjack391] #6663581
11/12/19 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
I don't understand why the shooter was there for so long? Say your thing and move on. The guys actions irritated me but without audio its hard to say what she was saying back.


I agree. Say your thing and move on. When he got shoved, he was probably already riled up and responded without reasoning shooting the guy. He got the right sentence.


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: loosegoose] #6663585
11/12/19 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by Harvester
Regardless of how big are a shove to the ground or a single punch could end your life.if u wait to find out if it does or doesn’t it may be to late.if your blind sided and shoved to the ground and hit your head and become dazed with a firearm on your side that could be taking and used against you ,you may very well of shot him to.

That's all true, but that's not what happened in this case. The guy that got shoved didn't hit his head or get knocked out. He *maybe* had cause to pull the gun and point it after he got shoved, for all he knew the guy was going to jump on him and pound his head into the ground a la trayvon Martin, , but once the guy backed up, I here was no justification to shoot.


Perhaps he mentioned he was going to retrieve a gun from his car. I don’t have audio, so I don’t know what was said.


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Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Lugnut] #6663688
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"You will only die tied" LOL...….

Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Lugnut] #6663694
11/12/19 01:37 PM
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Gang foreman was a good job,in charge of around 80 men and machines,lots of stress though,especially laying the ribbon.Rip out a mile of track and you better make sure it is back in service before the next train.Hold up a passenger train and you wont be around long.Winter on the section as foreman was a lot more laid back.Never worked as a seasonal labourer.
What do you do for a living Stevie?

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Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Boco] #6663756
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Originally Posted by Boco
Never worked as a seasonal labourer.


BOCO,

Stop spelling like an ignorant Canadian.

You don't need that extra u in labourer laborer !!! laugh

Geeze !! laugh

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Re: Michael Drejka Sentenced [Re: Lugnut] #6664118
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He's just making sure yous guys comprehend him right...

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