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Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664124
11/12/19 09:35 PM
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I think we are now number one in global oil and coal production?

That benefits of that out weighs any negatives of a spill!

Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664130
11/12/19 09:37 PM
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Lol

Paper bags were killing trees, plastic was the solution, now plastic is killing ocean, and now liberals are banning everything!

sick of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664136
11/12/19 09:43 PM
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24in natural gas pipeline through my back yard.hope it don't ever spring a leak.









Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664250
11/12/19 11:21 PM
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KABOOM!


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: nimzy] #6664445
11/13/19 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nimzy
Democrats. They want everything u got...except...your job.



I am not sure they want what we have …. they don't want us to have anything !

Garry-


“Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.”

Have been trapping 77 years…
Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664451
11/13/19 08:06 AM
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For those of you that are against the pipe lines, do your part and shut off the one going into your house.


"Not Really, Not Really"
Mark J Monti
"MJM you're a jerk."
Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664465
11/13/19 08:25 AM
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Mark I agree 100% shut the one off that runs your house.

Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664472
11/13/19 08:32 AM
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the 24 in gas line in my yard is basically to make sure ny city never runs outta gas.they pump it into the hills to store it and this line pretty much just connects storage areas.

Last edited by pcr2; 11/13/19 08:33 AM.








Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664702
11/13/19 12:48 PM
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A lot of people nowadays are shutting off all kinds of utilities and going "off the grid".


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: Boco] #6664804
11/13/19 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
A lot of people nowadays are shutting off all kinds of utilities and going "off the grid".

If I was Younger and had payback time , I would too!


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Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664807
11/13/19 02:43 PM
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"Slowly melt into the ground" WELL THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM!!! IT JUST WANTED TO GO BACK HOME![/quote]
Haha well lets hope it seeps into your water supply.[/quote]

If you're drinking tap water without filtering it you're a fool.....


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Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664816
11/13/19 02:53 PM
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Statistical Fact, pipelines do not leak as much as democrats on Capital Hill...


<smile>

Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: Boco] #6664858
11/13/19 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
A lot of people nowadays are shutting off all kinds of utilities and going "off the grid".



Yeah,

They're called homeless people, hobos, and bums. laugh

w


"Provisional/Interim" member of NYS Trappers Association
Jefferson Co. Fur Harvesters

I Support Non-Resident Trapping



Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664917
11/13/19 05:35 PM
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The Keystone 1 pipeline, that was brought on line in 2010 (No KXL pipe has been installed, though TC has done some pre construction work) has had 3 major leaks and another 20 some minor leaks in 9 years. TransCanada testified they might have 1 spill in 50 years.
Contrary to the poster that was blaming environmentalist sabotage, the 2016, 9000 gallon spill was determined to be because of a faulty weld.
The 400,000 gallon spill in 2017 was determined to have been caused by faulty placement of a saddle weight, or that it was subsequently run over by construction equipment. Both excuses have been used. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...le-previous-estimate-paper-idUSKBN1HE0T7
No determination as to cause of this recent 380,000 gallon spill has been announced yet, but I'm betting it is shoddy workmanship....again! The story is that, although the spill was into wetland, NO drinking water source was contaminated by the oil. No mention of the 1/3rd BTEX or 130,000 gallons of toxic and carcinogenic product they use thin the tarsands to make it flow.
TransCanada is currently suing about 100 landowners in Nebraska to TAKE a right of way across their privately owned land.

Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: Wahusker] #6664969
11/13/19 06:48 PM
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Yes many just don't want to accept the reality that those opposed to the pipeline would be the ones likely to cause the leak by damaging the pipeline.

We need to accept that when creating these significant infrastructure items that we are dependent upon good workmanship, oversight and monitoring and repair. That is the least we should anticipate or expect. Also those 100 NE private land holders need to be respected for their views and ownership and dealt with fairly. I worked with farmers in a neighboring county that had a much smaller pipeline go through the area and the pipeline companies were very difficult to deal with to say the least. I participated in several crop damage estimates and they were talked a good line but in the end they were not willing to live up to their original commitments and with the legal staffs they had and their telling farmers take this by this date or you can sue us which means farmers would get little to any more and years down the line.
Farmers could not go to town, county or even state government as the pipeline firms had made offers to the government municipalities and they were not giving up their funds.
Bryce

Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: MJM] #6664973
11/13/19 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MJM
For those of you that are against the pipe lines, do your part and shut off the one going into your house.


Flip the main breaker for electricity too. 62% of it is produced by natural gas!!!!!


NRALIFER,PRPA LIFER,HUNTER,FURTAKER
Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6664986
11/13/19 07:04 PM
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Is the pipeline above ground or buried, if buried seems it would be very evident if it was tampered with. Was Deep Water Horizon and Exxon Valdez sabotage? I have no doubt these projects could be done better but bottom line is money. I worked for a pipeline company and they got away with all kind of infractions it was called cost of doing business and just payed the fines. I didn't know private property was being condemned or under law suit, for me that would be time to exhibit my second amendment rights flat out fight.

Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6665555
11/14/19 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by danvee
Is the pipeline above ground or buried, if buried seems it would be very evident if it was tampered with. Was Deep Water Horizon and Exxon Valdez sabotage? I have no doubt these projects could be done better but bottom line is money. I worked for a pipeline company and they got away with all kind of infractions it was called cost of doing business and just payed the fines. I didn't know private property was being condemned or under law suit, for me that would be time to exhibit my second amendment rights flat out fight.


The Keystone pipelines are "supposed" to be buried 7 feet deep or deeper, depending on the terrain.

Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: Wahusker] #6665631
11/14/19 12:21 PM
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Well If someone messed with it Im thinking it would be very obvious.

Re: Keystone Pipeline leaking again [Re: danvee] #6665653
11/14/19 01:01 PM
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Google ....oill train derailments...you'll soon realize these leaks are a lot less frequent and less damaging than shipping by rail.

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