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Not good news for US dairy producers #6664857
11/13/19 02:47 PM
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See the link below. The number 1 dairy company in the US files for Chapter 11.

https://portal.tds.net/news/read/ca...oods_seeks_bankruptcy_protection_sale-ap

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Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6664862
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Interesting that Walmart opened up it's own milk facility.


Disclaimer: I am currently drunk, yet still confident that this makes sense.
Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6664869
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China will probably end up owning the dairy.

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Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6664915
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I expect to see several small farms in my area close because of this. The dairy industry is very resilient, but this is a kin to Nafa Declaring bankruptcy after many years of poor fur prices. Only much worse


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Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6664919
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I liked their cottage cheese more than any other.


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Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6665031
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Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6665073
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Youíre right it isnít good, dad always said when the milk subsidy kick in it meant the dairy farmers were lucky to feed their cows, and hasnít it been in affect on and off for the 10 years.

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The small dairy farmer have be getting screwed for years.


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Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6665117
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Milk is for baby cows.

Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: Sprung&Rusty] #6665146
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Youíre right it isnít good, dad always said when the milk subsidy kick in it meant the dairy farmers were lucky to feed their cows, and hasnít it been in affect on and off for the 10 years.

There have been types and aspects of dairy subsidies since 1949. The largest or biggest ones that created the major changes were the ones in the late 1970s that attached the price of milk to a higher level of parity and milk prices rose substantially for about 3-4 years and there was significant government purchases of dairy surpluses. That triggered efforts to make the dairy subsidy more market driven and that has been the case for about 35 years. Major changes evolved after the Green Bay Cheese exchange was discontinued as the base for milk prices nation wide and the CME base price for class 111 milk became the base for milk prices, federal orders and subsidies etc. As in all commodities the subsidies cover bushels, lbs, tons, CWTs acres etc. and not people. There are stop gaps in maximum size that can be used to set upper limits for subsidies and that hits milk production pretty quickly as farmers don't have separate coolers, tankers etc. Many very large crop operations create multiple ownerships and LLCs so they can cover all their acres and not hit the maximum for their farm.
Have federal programs helped or hurt agriculture in the USA? Most politicians want the revenues coming into their states so that is the main driver for continued federal farm program support on the farm level. As to SNAP the food program which is the larger portion of the farm bill the grocery associations of the USA are the biggest proponents of these funds as all those monies travel through their grocery stores.

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Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6665153
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I basically quit drinking milk and have cut back on most dairy products because I have a love/hate relationship with milk...

I love milk... It hates me. Lol

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Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6665154
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Ok, the last one I was familiar with I believe, its been a while, set the floor of milk price to 8 dollars per hundred weight, and even though now cows average around 30000 pounds of milk its still not enough.

Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6665156
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Hoping the smaller milk guys make it thru tough times.

Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: Sprung&Rusty] #6665182
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Originally Posted by Sprung&Rusty
Milk is for baby cows.



Calves-including both genders. They're not all cows............ whistle

Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6665205
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I am declaring cattle flatus!

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Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6665325
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I was surprised how cheap a gallon of milk was a couple of weeks ago at our local grocery store, $1.35 gallon. I know we were paying over $3.50 gallon several years back. There is a small dairy near where I grew up and the lease or buy all the corn fields they can get their hands on.


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Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: Scout1] #6665337
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Exports are declining due to world economies slowing and trade issues with major buyers of US dairy products, Mexico and China. The filing can also indicate the first signs of even our own economy not generating enough growth or usage and or income to support buying higher cost sources of protein foods. Unemployment at record lows is now seeming to show that just working does not create a stronger or faster growing economy.

Also it is very common that retailers use low ball milk prices to bring in business. Why do we think dairy, meat etc. is always in the rear of the store so shoppers have to walk through the isles of all the items they may not need but want.

Bryce

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Originally Posted by Scout1
I was surprised how cheap a gallon of milk was a couple of weeks ago at our local grocery store, $1.35 gallon.


Milk has been $.98 (98 cents) a gallon for a long time at three of the grocery sores in my area. Last week, for some reason, it went up to $1.59 a gallon


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Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6665462
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The soy and almond " milk" is destroying the dairy market.

Re: Not good news for US dairy producers [Re: bblwi] #6665464
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People aren't drinking milk anymore, switching to almond milk. USA has been exporting dairy cows to China. Milk is over supplied just like ranch fur, with decreasing demand.

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