The judge gives his opinion beginning at 51 minutes. He lays into Drejka before throwing the book at him. "Wanna-be cop, handicap parking place enforcer."

Well, just read this entire thread and you will soon see why some people get pushed to the ground and others shot. One minute a fellow calls another a piece of trash and the next he say they will never find the body. Tough guys. Wow
Real life ain't the movies. You just cannot kick the $hit of someone, even if they deserve it, and go home to watch the evening news like nothing happened. Why on earth would someone shoot someone backing away? Because everyone has the tough guy attitude, a smart mouth and does not think. The majority running around today are plain stupid. What ever happened to mind your own business? What ever happened to trying to discuss things?

Danny, Loosegoose pretty much summed things up.

From my point of view, the turd head shouting at the lady should not have been running his gums. It would be one thing if it were his job to enforce the law, but it was not. He should have minded his own business. Could have got his license plate and reported him. Yes, it might feel like one would want to kick his butt, but is that the smart thing to do?

The guy coming out of the store made several mistakes. It is pretty much the way of many to say "Well I would have kicked his butt" . Sounds good but with any kind of training one would recognize a situation that could turn ugly. It would have best to ignore the idiot and move along. If one felt the need to addressed the situation, one could in engage in a dialogue in an attempt to see if one could calm the idiot down. If that did not work, leaving would be the best answer.
In this day and with the climate of this country, any time you engage in a physical altercation, you are asking for trouble and opening yourself up to a crap storm.
One should view everyone as carrying. Especially a loud mouth idiot like the guy shouting at the women.
When you lay hands on someone and knock them to the ground you stand against several possibilities. The old fart could have hit his head and died on the spot. The old fart could pull a gun or other weapon. You need to be smarter than a parking lot stripe.

Think things through. Remain calm.
Lots of good comments in this thread from some level headed folks.

Edit: Watched the judge video. From the guy that shot the other, I guess he was older due to his movement and body language. My God the shooter was stupid. See, you never know who your are messing with. Stupid and armed is a bad thing.

Seems to me that the woman thought she could do as she wanted with no regard for the law and so did the guy who got shot. I guess if they did follow the laws he would still be alive. He pushed the wrong guy to the ground....my guess is that worked for him many times before but not this time.

Marty, pushing the shooter to the ground was a stupid thing to do, whether he was armed or not. Staying alive and protecting your family is a thinking mans game. Neither guy was very bright in this encounter.

I believe the pusher was an ex con. What if mike did not pull his gun? What happens to him next? Can he see all around him while laying on his back? No. Is he at a disadvantage? Yes. Pulling the gun may have stopped further violence. Maybe Mike was disorientated and reacted on instincts? If we are taking all prior behavior into consideration maybe look into prior behavior on the pushers part. I do not want the country to be taken over by hood rats that think they can do whatever they want with no consequences....but it seems we are on the way there.
When violence escalates it really is the first person who resorted to violence that is at fault. There was a lot of pressure by the black lives matter folks to get this verdict. The same group would have wanted the cop that shot mike brown locked up but we all know how that turned out..

LOL

Lugnut- thank you for posting the sentencing hearing. Judge laid it out very clearly.

Since the OP seems tired out I would like to take a poll on one of the replies.

You can’t dish out punishment to a retreating assault, or something to that effect.

If that had been a hand to hand incident at which point does defense become offense?

If your fighting fair your tactics suck. I bet the judge has no concept of that.

When the other guy falls, stops fightings, says uncle.

LOL, not tired out Hobbie, just taking it all in. Okay, maybe a little tired out, just got back from setting the first part of my fox line out.

I'm a little disappointed and sort of surprised by how many defended the shooter.The threat had passed, the guy was retreating when he was shot. That right there makes it an unjustifiable shooting.

The shooter had a long history of this sort of behavior and it was bound to come to this sooner or later.

The guy doing the shoving had a stranger go into the store and tell him there was some guy confronting and yelling at his wife. He went out there and saw exactly that. I can't honestly say I wouldn't have done the same thing. At the very least I would have put myself between the loudmouth and my wife, I'd have been right in his face. Does that make me a hood rat Danny?

I think the judge laid it out pretty precisely and watching the shooter during sentencing, you could tell there still wasn't a bit of remorse for needlessly murdering a guy in front of his family. The guy died right in front of his five-year-old son.

What it comes down to for me is this.....When I'm laying in a gas station parking lot bleeding out from a gunshot to the chest, it won't matter to me, or to my wife, or to my kids, whether or not I was justified in shoving some guy I didn't have to shove, or whether or not the guy that shot me was justified in doing so. All that will matter is that I'm dead, and that's all that'll matter to my wife and kids.

That Drejka guy looks identical to trumps judge Kavanaugh.

“Stops fighting”, you mean resting?

Of course there was no remorse, he was correcting a wrong and was attacked in his mind.

This is what I've been saying all along and a lot of people on here just don't get it. They want to argue about if it's justified , that the shooter was in the wrong and they would handle it the same way.

Doesn't matter if your right or wrong, shove the wrong guy to the ground and you just might end up dead. Put your hands on another man and that's the chance you take. Reasonable, rational and justified are all words used a lot in this thread and they meant nothing in this instance. You're trying to assign your values to a complete stranger in a physical confrontation, you've opened Pandora's box and death might be waiting for you.

Seriously me too ,You get older and somebody shoves you to the pavement it can be life threatening

It could be, but it wasn't in this case.

How many on here defending Drejka are the same ones who lament the good old days when you met after school and used fists to settle disputes? Drejka is a coward who started something with his mouth and chose a gun to finish it. Overwelmed apparently by his fear.

His mind was correct because he was attacked.

He just wasn’t quick enough to draw and fire on his way down.