Re: Will he live
[Re: forestman3]
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11/15/19 10:50 PM
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Yes sir
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I wonder if you would stand in a room full of hunters and announce that every one who has made a bad shot is an idiot. Because if you think everyone that has made a poor shot is an idiot , the shoe may be on the other foot.
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Re: Will he live
[Re: forestman3]
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11/16/19 06:12 AM
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danny clifton
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Anybody who has never made a bad shot has not hunted much.
There are bone heads who hunt without target practice or take shots they are not confident of, that is what humans do. Dumb stuff. Fortunately most people don't do dumb stuff.
That deer is holding its head up and not bleeding much. Probably will survive.
I think guys like Marty are more common . Made a bad shot in spite of plenty of practice, then spent two days finding his deer.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Will he live
[Re: forestman3]
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11/16/19 07:31 AM
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Excuse me, but I have to say some of you guys are pretty harsh, given the only information we have.. the photo. I can't blow it up to know if it is archery or not and it doesn't matter, but like some have said.... if you've never made a bad shot you haven't hunted much. If the guy took a neck shot on purpose I bet he'll never do it again. Stuff happens to even the best of shots.
I know I've wounded a turkey or two with my bow in 20 years but I spent hours looking for them. I've not lost a deer, but I've only hunted deer with a rifle for 10 years and I'm comfortable with my gun.
Let's lighten up on this a bit. Go out and hunt or trap and have a good weekend with your families.
I'm looking forward to three days without rain starting Monday and maybe a roe buck in the freezer.
Pete
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Re: Will he live
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11/16/19 09:13 AM
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I have pictures of the guy tracking it.Maybe he found it but I don`t think so. Would you post pictures of the idiot tracking the wounded buck ? I just want to see if it is any of the idiots we know !! w
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Re: Will he live
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11/16/19 09:26 AM
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Got a pic of the guy trailing it. Doesn't look fatal to me, but who's to say he didn't recovered it. I've seen them survive some good hits from cars. Though animals.
Russ
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Re: Will he live
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11/16/19 09:49 AM
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Back in the 80s I helped my brother inlaw cut deer during our gun season. I mostly did skinning and capping as he was a the schooled meat cutter..Most people would be shocked to see the pile of broad heads and bullets recover from those deer. Some were obvious new hit and of course the kill shot. Others were pretty much a ball off scar around the bullet or broad head.. So it was very evident that not all shots to deer were fatal.. One that always stood out for me was a very big buck shot in a what they call here a metro area.. That deer had at least two dozen hits on him by 22 bullets. Some just under the hide others in muscle areas. Even had one round stuck in his rack that must have been done while was in velvet. That was something done by and idiot.. I'm also in the club that has had shots go bad. Not many but it happens.
Mac
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Re: Will he live
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11/16/19 10:06 AM
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This thread is foolish all together. The O.P. calling the guy an idiot and doesn't know the whole story. Hunters bashing hunters is never a good thing. We have anti hunters to worry about. Probably a better idea never to even post this thread..... just sayin.
No Jab.
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Re: Will he live
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11/16/19 10:10 AM
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Some idiots claim neck shots are the way to go.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke "We are fast approaching... rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand
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Re: Will he live
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11/16/19 12:13 PM
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The neck shot is one of those odd complexities in hunting. As mentioned above, some love it, others hate it. I’ve shot deer in the neck before, several with my bow. Most were hit in the spine dropping instantly. Others it in an artery leaving a trail Stevie Wonder could follow. But then, there was that one shot that changed it all. Doe cam in, drew back and she paused behind a tree showing only he neck. Shot her and she bled like crazy for 200 yards or better. Then, it just stopped. First day of rifle season, she came back by the same stand. Could see the scar tissue. This was a full month later. Shot her with the rifle and was curious to see the damage. Nothing vital. She was fine. Changed my opinion on that type of shot but I’ll still not begrudge someone that does it. Not the best option but it’s their choice in the end. As for a rifle, it’s not a bad idea with light caliber guns that shed everything they’ve got in a few inches. 22-250, 223, 243, 25-06. Heck, any light for caliber bullet designed for rapid expansion is a good option.
I keep desperately hoping that one day someone will call me "Sir" without adding "please calm down" or "you're causing a scene."
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Re: Will he live
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11/16/19 01:52 PM
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It was common practice among Plains Indians in the 1840's to shoot mustangs in the neck with a rifle to stun them, so they could catch them. General George Custer's horse Dandy, was shot in the neck at the Little Big Horn with a Buffalo Rifle. Libby, his wife sent Dandy home to Father Custer, who rode the horse in parades for years.
As long as a wound is not harming the spine, the windpipe or arteries, it will recover. Lot's of Civil War veterans recovered from worse than this. As it is cool and semi dry, not much of a chance for blow flies or for it to go septic. he will recover unless someone else shoots him.
That wound though looks not like an arrow or rifle wound. It looks like a gash, as others said from a horn, or maybe he ran into a fence while chasing a doe.
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Re: Will he live
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11/16/19 08:47 PM
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I have a buddy that claims he aims for the jugular. Not very ethical if you ask me. Also said buddy admits he at least attempts to poach out of car windows and shoots game out of season. I gave him crap about it but some part of me thinks it’s all bs and he hasn’t shot anything. Claims he draws a bow out of the window. Seems fishy. No law against lying to your buddy’s I suppose but doesn’t make him “cool” or a “bada**”. We all make mistakes but I try to follow the rules down to the letter.
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Re: Will he live
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11/16/19 08:52 PM
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Oh... and supposedly shot a massive buck in the neck this morning and “lost” the blood trail. He just wants to out do the lawful, ethical hunters and make up stories. I highly doubt he shot anything at all. Just wants a nose up on me.
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Re: Will he live
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11/16/19 08:57 PM
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Oh... and supposedly shot a massive buck in the neck this morning and “lost” the blood trail. He just wants to out do the lawful, ethical hunters. I would venture he isn’t really a hunter, just a POS shooting deer and ruining it for the rest of us. OP, that picture looks like it could’ve been a wound from an antler during a battle maybe. I shot a little six pointer on Friday that had a wound on its back, it was cut pretty wide open and ran from its spine down its side. Looked like an possible miss from a broad head in the early season. I think the person who shot it aimed a little high and hit the back strap above the spine from a steep angle, it was healed pretty well, considering the damage he would have made it if he didn’t step out broadside in front of me at 35 yards. I wish I’d have taken a picture of the wound.
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