Re: Buckeyes favored
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Ohio State graduation rates
Football: black: 43 percent; white: 56 percent; 48 percent
Looks like those free educations at Ohio State are not too valuable.
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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Ohio State graduation rates
Football: black: 43 percent; white: 56 percent; 48 percent
Looks like those free educations at Ohio State are not too valuable. The Ohio State football players frequently leave college early to play in the NFL. I believe there are 51 NFL players from Ohio State right now. Keith
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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Penn State student-athletes have delivered a Graduation Success Rate in the 88-91 percent range during each of the past 13 NCAA reports, improving from 88 percent in the 2015 report, to 89 percent in 2016, to 90 percent in 2017 and 2018, and a record-breaking 91 percent figure in 2019. They only have 27 active players in the NFL.
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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Tried to find the Gophers game on TV Saturday but it wasn't playing. Are the Gophers still undefeated? Go Gophers! What high school team is Ohio St. playing this weekend? Theyre playing Arkansas razorbacks high school, you know them? They were relevant one year? As the almighty Bama plays powerhouse western Carolina, usually strong but are 3-6 right now As an Arkansas fan, I figger the high school team would beat Arkansas.
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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Ohio State graduation rates
Football: black: 43 percent; white: 56 percent; 48 percent
Looks like those free educations at Ohio State are not too valuable. Well give us a run down of the usual top ten teams in America so we can compare all of them?
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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Most of the Ncaa rules are stupid in my opinion. I think the only ones that should be dealt with is a rules infraction that gives a college or player an unfair advantage. Paying players to come to a university, Giving players fake classes and or grades so they can meet academic requirements , things along those lines. As for who they may borrow from the last report I heard was the guy is a licensed agent. If not it should be ok . But next year if and when he is represented by the same "family friend" then you need to come on here and state you were wrong...... If not then the kid has to live.....
But as for memoriabilia , was the said property traded really property of the university ? That is where the grey area may become involved. If a "common " student took something from the campus and "traded it for anything the college would charge them with stealing. I also am sick of hearing how much money colleges and the NCAA are making from these guys. SO 99% of "businesses are doing the same thing from their employees. But wait you say those employees are getting a salary. SO ARE THE PLAYERS it is called tuition. Some college tuitions are close to 60 grand a year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You think how much the owner of AMAZON is making from his PLAYERS Lot of them are working for less than what college players are getting in tuition....... PLUS the kids are getting free advertisement each time they are show cased on the TV ........ Well I respect all quoted. I can not state I was wrong because I am not going to say he was or was not an agent? I have no idea. I trust the NCAA did a thorough investigation into it??? IF he is found to be an agent then I believe its on the NFL to remove this guys license to represent anyone (if they can)? As for the memoriabilia, I can't remember ever reading that they stole the items, but who knows. The items I remember were given to them, awards, clothing, etc. But its unethical players if they stole. It casts a dark shadow on the University but gives them zero advantage against their opponents. I don't like a lot of recruiting crap being done either and I really hated how they landed Mike Weber for the team up north a few years ago. However, all teams do some crap and Dabo is very guilty in the crap he spews to his recruits. Anyhow, Go Bucks!!!
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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Players are getting over $100K education as well as monthly stipends of $1000 or so a month to pay for rent, etc. That's good enough for me, I don't believe a change should be made, leave the system in place.
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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Football GSR 2018 GSR takes in account of transfers.
BIG TEN EAST
Michigan 87 percent (7-0, 9-1) Maryland 84 percent (3-4, 5-5) Indiana 83 percent (2-5, 5-5) Michigan State 82 percent (4-3, 6-4) Penn State 82 percent (4-3, 7-3) Rutgers 78 percent (0-7, 1-9) Ohio State 64 percent (6-1, 9-1)
BIG TEN WEST
Northwestern 99 percent (6-1, 6-4) Minnesota 89 percent (2-5, 5-5) Wisconsin 86 percent (4-3, 6-4) Nebraska 82 percent (2-5, 3-7) Illinois 81 percent (2-5, 4-6) Iowa 80 percent (3-4, 6-4) Purdue 77 percent (4-3, 5-5)
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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Here are your rankings in order of graduation rate, via ABC27.com.
1. Stanford 99% 2. Notre Dame 93% 3. UCLA 89% 4. Alabama 86% 5. TCU 84% 6. Clemson 84% 7. Temple 82% 8. Ohio State 82% 9. Florida 78% 10. Baylor 74% 11. Texas A&M 74% 12. Toledo 73% 13. Florida State 73% 14. Memphis 72% 15. Mississippi State 72% 16. Michigan 72% 17. Iowa 71% 18. LSU 70% 19. Utah 69% 20. Michigan State 66% 21. Oklahoma 65% 22. North Carolina 62% 23. Ole Miss 60% 24. Houston 56% 25. Oklahoma State 54%
Unfortunately I'm not sure what to believe???
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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Here are your rankings in order of graduation rate, via ABC27.com.
1. Stanford 99% 2. Notre Dame 93% 3. UCLA 89% 4. Alabama 86% 5. TCU 84% 6. Clemson 84% 7. Temple 82% 8. Ohio State 82% 9. Florida 78% 10. Baylor 74% 11. Texas A&M 74% 12. Toledo 73% 13. Florida State 73% 14. Memphis 72% 15. Mississippi State 72% 16. Michigan 72% 17. Iowa 71% 18. LSU 70% 19. Utah 69% 20. Michigan State 66% 21. Oklahoma 65% 22. North Carolina 62% 23. Ole Miss 60% 24. Houston 56% 25. Oklahoma State 54%
Unfortunately I'm not sure what to believe??? Penn State didn't even make the top 25, lol. Bass10 I think you better find another source.
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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some of the degrees talked about earlier as being as 'hilarious" are valuable instant job placement careers. For Example with a communications degree you can roll straight into radio and or tv broadcasting for small time networks and get your feet wet. Very high demand and actually low reward career but job placement especially for a "good" or "well known athlete" is very high compared to say someone who got a "serious" degree like political science or something. Not knocking Political Science just used it as a reference. Athletic coaching is also a very lucrative career with solid placement. Do you know high end high school football coaches in Texas make six figures easily? If you are a big time coach looking to bolster your squad with young talented coaching help would you rather go with an ex tight end that got a bachelors in English or a bachelors in Athletic coaching. Who was trained in proper training and nutrition for athletes.
Now to some these classes may be a joke and even at the college level they can be awful easy to succeed in for athletes but at least they are a useable career.
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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At Ohio State Hippie, 322 should have clear sailing on Saturday.
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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some of the degrees talked about earlier as being as 'hilarious" are valuable instant job placement careers. For Example with a communications degree you can roll straight into radio and or tv broadcasting for small time networks and get your feet wet. Very high demand and actually low reward career but job placement especially for a "good" or "well known athlete" is very high compared to say someone who got a "serious" degree like political science or something. Not knocking Political Science just used it as a reference. Athletic coaching is also a very lucrative career with solid placement. Do you know high end high school football coaches in Texas make six figures easily? If you are a big time coach looking to bolster your squad with young talented coaching help would you rather go with an ex tight end that got a bachelors in English or a bachelors in Athletic coaching. Who was trained in proper training and nutrition for athletes.
Now to some these classes may be a joke and even at the college level they can be awful easy to succeed in for athletes but at least they are a useable career. Yes I'm sure but that coach gig is very limited. Plus the degree is athletic assistant lol....
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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some of the degrees talked about earlier as being as 'hilarious" are valuable instant job placement careers. For Example with a communications degree you can roll straight into radio and or tv broadcasting for small time networks and get your feet wet. Very high demand and actually low reward career but job placement especially for a "good" or "well known athlete" is very high compared to say someone who got a "serious" degree like political science or something. Not knocking Political Science just used it as a reference. Athletic coaching is also a very lucrative career with solid placement. Do you know high end high school football coaches in Texas make six figures easily? If you are a big time coach looking to bolster your squad with young talented coaching help would you rather go with an ex tight end that got a bachelors in English or a bachelors in Athletic coaching. Who was trained in proper training and nutrition for athletes.
Now to some these classes may be a joke and even at the college level they can be awful easy to succeed in for athletes but at least they are a useable career. Yes I'm sure but that coach gig is very limited. Plus the degree is athletic assistant lol... If there are roughly 130 division one colleges each with a minimum of 5 assistants per team (new assitants that is) then factor in FBS schools and then start figuring how many large scale high schools exist. There are many a high school coaches out there that make more than i do and i am not a chump certainly not a trump either. I will bet and have not researched it but i will the average employment rate is higher for that coaching gig than an English major and likely the average yearly pay is more as well.
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Re: Buckeyes favored
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Jbyrd you are not comparing apples to apples. You have to look at the ratios. There are a lot more graduates with an English major than there are with a coaching degree thus making the initial pool you get your statistics from quite larger. I am talking employment rates and income potential. For example when i was in college I had a very close friend who was a math major graduates from that college at the time had a job placement rating of 40% directly out of the math program into a job. I for example was a construction management major and the program i went through had a job placement rating of over 90%. The only graduates that didn't get hired into the field are the ones with other jobs waiting for them like family job situations.
You can also look at data for the percentage of graduates that end up working in the field they were educated in total. Old school standard degrees suffer in this category as well. Severely.
And English major does not equate to English teacher. It makes up a portion of the group but not the complete. And In most states you do not have to be an English major to be an English teacher. Actually a bachelors in elementary education. Secondary teachers usually require an English major though. This differs on region and state.
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