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how do collect urine from dead coyotes? #6669702
11/19/19 08:59 AM
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I hear tell that some folks collect urine from the bladder of dead coyotes after they are skun. I've opened the abdominal cavity on about three of the past coyotes I've finished skinning and I'll be darned if I can find a bladder anywhere. I can find kidneys and the alimentary canal, but I can't seem to find the bladder. Doesn't seem like it should be that hard to find or identify.

Anyone have any tips on how to find a coyote bladder?


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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6669715
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This is a bobcat but same principal, if the bladder has urine in it you should find it. sometimes it down in the pelvis when they are about empty.
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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6669749
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Most coyotes I trap their bladders are pretty much empty, but coyotes that are shot while hunting will have enough to collect most of the time. Cats usually have some when trapped. Empty bladders are worth collecting for use also. Took me awhile to figure out what the bladders look like empty. Wish I had a pic of an empty one to show you.

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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6669750
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When empty, like 99% of coyotes are, it will be smaller than a smashed down ping pong ball. its an off white color, looks thick and wrinkley. It is so rare to get pee out of a trapped coyote I don't even bother to look anymore.


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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6669756
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Probably aren't looking deep enough into the pelvis. My problem is the bladders are rarely full. When they are full you can milk them by pressing on the pelvis area and hold a container near the appropriate orifice if it's a coyote you aren't going to skin due to mange or other issues.

Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: danny clifton] #6669765
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
When empty, like 99% of coyotes are, it will be smaller than a smashed down ping pong ball. its an off white color, looks thick and wrinkley. It is so rare to get pee out of a trapped coyote I don't even bother to look anymore.


Okay, I think I may have found it then. I definitely found something that was probably a little smaller than a golf ball and thick and wrinkley, like you said. Due to the small size and lack of urine in it I think I figured that must have been a uterus or some weird gland or something. I'm probably finding the bladder, but it's just smaller and emptier than I was expecting to find.


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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6669778
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I collect urine from canines that are snared.


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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6669781
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I once shot a coyote and being young and inexperienced, I went to put in across my shoulders to carry it out. Apparently that puts the correct pressure on the pelvis and the bladder emptied, from my shoulder to my ankle. I stunk for days. My wife threw out that shirt and pants.

Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6669807
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If you have a male, blow through his private parts and the bladder should inflate.

Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6669812
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The same as you siphon gas - get yourself a hose and start sucking.

Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: charles] #6669881
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Originally Posted by charles
If you have a male, blow through his private parts and the bladder should inflate.


That would really help me find it for sure. Do you think I need compressed air or would I be able to blow hard enough with just my lungs?


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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: charles] #6669883
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You need to demo that at the NTA,people would pay to see you do that.


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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Coulter] #6669884
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Originally Posted by Coulter
The same as you siphon gas - get yourself a hose and start sucking.


Do you think I need to siphon it into a blue bucket?


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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: charles] #6669985
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Originally Posted by charles
If you have a male, blow through his private parts and the bladder should inflate.


It works much better is you use a pig castrator first. grin

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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6670021
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Like Yes Sir and Danny both said trapped coyotes are almost always bone dry. But rifle shot or shotgunned coyotes can be a very abundant source of urine. I get most of my urine from callers not trappers.

Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6670028
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If you are going that far then cut the bladder out and toss it in a jar with the rest of the glands you should be saving. Let it set for a year or 2 then add some glycerine band mix. There you have some real gland lure. FREE . I must warn you not to open the jar in your house. It will smell worse than any dog far you may have ever smelled.


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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6670744
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Here is what an empty bladder looks like. This is from a big male red fox.

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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6670811
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Thanks, lugnut. That's exactly what I was finding but assumed it must be something other than a bladder. I was expecting to see something more like the cat bladder in monstertom's picture. Apparently that's not what a bladder looks like in a trapped canine.


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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #6670837
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The picture in MonsterTom’s post is exactly what canine bladders look like when they’re full Kart. Make sure you make your opening cut very shallow. It is very easy to cut into a full bladder like the one pictured. They press up against the thin abdominal muscles when they’re full. I always insert the point of my knife and sliced up towards the pelvis with the blade toward the outside.


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Re: how do collect urine from dead coyotes? [Re: Kart29] #7459457
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I am about to try and find the bladder on a wolf carcass. Any tips?
I was thinking of opening below the ribcage and then slicing toward the tail.


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