I bought the rack then took a milk crate to make my basket to haul things. I normally just use a back pack when setting DPs or putting out trail cams.

One more thing . Did you order fenders? I didn't but after first use I ordered . Mud strip up your back. LOL Also one thing if you are in real soupy mud there is a proximity switch in the front sprocket . Magnets are made into the sprocket and it reads them as it turns I have had to wipe the mud off mine ONE time because the pedal assist didn't work.

I didn't order fenders. My first thought on that was I'm hunting where they get less than 15 inches of rain a year. Good info on the dirt hampering the pedal assist. I'll watch for that.

Very true. I have noticed this for years before these E bikes became popular. I have ridden ATB bicycles in the woods a lot. Also even with a gasoline motorcycle (dirtbike) I almost hit a deer as I was coming down a very steep grade on a trail in the woods , just using my brakes and engine at about idle , came around a corner and spooked a deer that was bedded. Almost hit it , had to lockup and skid a bit.

Bet these will get used in urban areas by police. Our PD has some ATB bicycles that are used , quiet. They sneak up on perps doing things they shouldn't be doing.

they are not legal on public land here.

Kinda funny when ya think about it. A green-ish product that is quiet and causes few to no problems. The Segway was going to be a great new thing until it's uses were curtailed on where it could be used. No road use or sidewalk use in some places. Killed the product. Segways are almost laughed at now. ( think mall cop....lol )
But now we are seeing rental Ebikes in some places.
NYC has or is looking at having bicycle riders to have a licence to ride a bicycle , really ?

The government kills innovation thru regulation.

According to the feds the 750 watt e-bikes are a bicycle and you can go into areas that say "no motorized vehicles allowed".

Thousands of miles of roads closed to motorized vehicles in Eastern Oregon . Some year round and more and more are being subject to winter closure . Only main roads open where you will likely be passed by several vehicles in day. I suppose you could just peddle it and pretend it's a regular bike if someone is watching .

I know a guy who used a carrier like that for a Fat Kat and it broke on the road. He didn't realize it was gone for a few miles and he Never did get it back. Not sure what kind of shape it was in after bouncing down the highway. These things are heavy, you need a carrier that's build for this kind of weight.

I didn't see this before my last post. How does this controlling state of ours view that ?

If you watch my video above, I state that most states follow the lead of the feds, but for state WMA's there are a lot of different rules. The laws on these things are evolving quickly.

It's a class 2 bicycle. No licenses or insurance or anything necessary. You can ride in the bike lanes. If the power head was more than 750 watts it would be a motorcycle or scooter, therefore a motorized vehicle.

Well, they still might cite me depending on whim and fancy of that particular authority...but I would win in court.

I could imagine using that to go down a road to get to a calling stand. No noise.

Most people think it is a mountain bike. Don't even notice the battery !!!

I think the rating on this one is 350 lbs. It is designed for 2 e bikes but with the inside bike you have to tilt down to open tail gate . So I just use outside rack.

I have a 750 watt M2S it is about the same as the RAD and the Quiet Cat but like the RAD much cheaper than the Cat. It also comes with the fenders and lights and rack. It is street legal but because it is 750 watts no license required. Always check your state regs. I have had the same experience with deer. They don't seem to be bothered by it. It is super quiet and plenty powerful. I was concerned about going up hills but the pedal assist makes it a breeze and it isn't difficult at all. I love mine. Battery life is superb.

I’ve been looking at the Rad bikes for awhile . Might pull the trigger this spring. Does anyone have experience with them in rocky terrain ?

Yes you must realize the Rad power bike first and foremost is a high quality fat tire mountain bike with the added bonus of electric motor drive built in. Top of the line components. Brushless moto,r shimano gears, 7 speeds front rear disc brakes. Headlight is very bright and built in component that has a on /off switch. SAME components that quiet Kat uses.
Describe rocky LOL. If you could ride a MT bike over it this bike will go.

Absolutely not true about the Rad power bikes. They are hub driven while the Quiet Kat has center motor drive which is much more reliable, powerful and of course costly. Huge difference. Also, the Rad bikes are basically a fat tire bike with a battery and motor added while the Quiet Kat is built to be a hunting bike. If you compare the two, you will see there is a LOT of difference in durability, quality and frame, etc. That's why the quiet Kat is much more costly, they are built to take the beating that hunters will give them, not just a bike with add-ons. [i][/i]