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Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6671085
11/20/19 06:33 PM
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but with the free dvd's it should be a wash.









Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6671101
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Eh...wot?

Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6671168
11/20/19 08:20 PM
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I'm sorry Alex , the answer is, "what is nafa"

Re: Nafa now gone [Re: pcr2] #6671223
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Originally Posted by pcr2
markets get any worse you'll have to change your name to mud. grin

lol


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Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6671245
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Wait!!!

NAFA's gone???

Why wasn't this hashed out on here multiple times in the last month or so??

People are starting to slack around here.

PCR I'm disappointed in you for not bringing this up before. pishaw


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Re: Nafa now gone [Re: trapper les] #6671299
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Originally Posted by trapper les
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markets get any worse you'll have to change your name to mud. grin

lol


It’s taken!


April is autism awareness month. Nearly 1 in every 100 children are born with an autism spectrum disorder.. 1 in 100. Stop and think about it...please
Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6671301
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Re: Nafa now gone [Re: GROUSEWIT] #6671431
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Originally Posted by GROUSEWIT
Originally Posted by pcr2
markets get any worse you'll have to change your name to mud. grin


Gonna miss going to walmart to meet nafa truck less than a mile from house!!!!

get a job as a greeter and you can still go and make more than with fur.









Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Dirt] #6671605
11/21/19 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt





NAFA just got a 5 million dollar secured loan to give advances to mink ranchers. Wild fur producers no such luck.


Where did you see this at?


ITA, NTA, FTA
Re: Nafa now gone [Re: mink99] #6671626
11/21/19 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mink99
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NAFA just got a 5 million dollar secured loan to give advances to mink ranchers. Wild fur producers no such luck.


Where did you see this at?


Deloitte The 5 million is not going to be all spent on advances. Just some of it. Starving kits was the main justification for the loan.

"URGENT NEED FOR FILING AND OVERALL RESTRUCTURING THESIS

26.The Applicants are seeking relief under the CCAA in order to obtain DIP Financing to fund its now overdue obligations to its farming constituents, who are in the end stages of cultivating kits for this season."

"The DIP Financing is critical to the Applicants. The Applicants have already made significant capital investments by way of Kit Loans in preparation for the harvest. As shown in the Cash Flow Forecast, the Applicants run out of liquidity in the week ended November 8, 2019 to continue to fund those Kit Loans to allow the farmers to feed the mink."

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Who is John Galt?
Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6671630
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as a good friend of mine would say-BOHICA- grin









Re: Nafa now gone [Re: wissmiss] #6671633
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You are going to confuse coonman220. smile


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Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6671644
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I thought Advance sold parts.
Are they brokering skins now?

FHA gonna get flooded.





Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6671662
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I think I'm gonna ranch BEAVER. That's where the money is. Then I'd get bankrupt NAFA to pay me out while shafting the wild fur harvesters.

Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Dirt] #6671674
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Deloitte The 5 million is not going to be all spent on advances. Just some of it. Starving kits was the main justification for the loan.

"URGENT NEED FOR FILING AND OVERALL RESTRUCTURING THESIS

26.The Applicants are seeking relief under the CCAA in order to obtain DIP Financing to fund its now overdue obligations to its farming constituents, who are in the end stages of cultivating kits for this season."

"The DIP Financing is critical to the Applicants. The Applicants have already made significant capital investments by way of Kit Loans in preparation for the harvest. As shown in the Cash Flow Forecast, the Applicants run out of liquidity in the week ended November 8, 2019 to continue to fund those Kit Loans to allow the farmers to feed the mink."


This is looking like margin calls for mink ranchers. Any predictions on next years crop?

Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6671681
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35 million.

I wonder what the North American farmers think about the fact NAFA owes over $20 million to Europeon creditors?


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Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6671722
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35 million? Looks like at least some U.S. ranchers will be forced out. The entire collapse is an indication of the real weakness of the fur industry in general. Sounds like cancer. Wonder how long it will take for the rest of the dominos to fall?

Re: Nafa now gone [Re: mink99] #6671730
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Originally Posted by mink99


Where did you see this at?



Here's everything pertaining to NAFA's restructuring effort. supposed to be an update end of Nov. Poke here NAFA

Re: Nafa now gone [Re: whartonrattrappe] #6671734
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How many US ranchers are there ? I thought there were less than 300 producing 4-5 million. How about Canada farms? Looks to me a lot of NAFA issues may be with the European producers

Re: Nafa now gone [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6671774
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I mentioned US because I am unsure of foreign governments subsidies. I believe some countries subsidize ranch operations thus diluted the true market capitalism.

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