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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: BillyTraps] #6675954
11/26/19 10:29 AM
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It will be against the law to bring video of an animal being tortured into the country. That’s gonna be a problem for PETA.


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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6675978
11/26/19 10:59 AM
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(1) the term `animal crushing' means actual conduct in
which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles,
or amphibians is purposely crushed, burned, drowned,
suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily
injury
(as defined in section 1365 and including conduct
that, if committed against a person and in the special
maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States,
would violate section 2241 or 2242)


These are not good words for us.

Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: BillyTraps] #6675985
11/26/19 11:10 AM
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It's a slippery slope and no doubt next time we get a muslim/anti American congress and president this law will be used to move the needle
further to the left, same as they weaponized the patriot act to destroy political opponents for 8 years.


Not my circus, not my clowns.
Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: James] #6675987
11/26/19 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by James
I hadn't heard of that Act, but have to wonder how "torture" is described. Can it be construed to ban trapping?

Notice how Trump praises the Humane Society representative.

Told ya that man ain't on our side.

Jim


Just wait and see what he will do to undermine us if he wins a second term and no longer needs his base. He instinctively steers towards anything that provides publicity and adoration. It does matter who adores him--it's what drives his "decisions".

Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: BillyTraps] #6675993
11/26/19 11:25 AM
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Don't like it and feel it will be twisted around to bite us.

Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: BillyTraps] #6675999
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LOL


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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: BillyTraps] #6676065
11/26/19 01:19 PM
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Man, Trump can't pull the wool over you guys eyes. Lol

Y'all should look up your states animal cruelty laws, the way most are written up will scare ya if this one does.

For example, Pa. Has a line...it is a criminal act to ill-treat an animal.
Now who decides what ill-treat is?

Purposely put in hunting and trapping is exempt should help if some wire-haired liberal starts whining.

Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: James] #6676147
11/26/19 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by James
I hadn't heard of that Act, but have to wonder how "torture" is described. Can it be construed to ban trapping?

Told ya that man ain't on our side.

Jim


don't you owe him an apology?

why yes, yes you do.

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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: BillyTraps] #6676155
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There's a strong push to equate pets with human babies. The leftist elite pushes this agenda to help control the birth rate. Many Americans and people in other countries too, even including China ,fill the whole in their lives from not having children with animals.

Keith

Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: white marlin] #6676167
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by James
I hadn't heard of that Act, but have to wonder how "torture" is described. Can it be construed to ban trapping?

Told ya that man ain't on our side.

Jim


don't you owe him an apology?

why yes, yes you do.


smile


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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: BillyTraps] #6676175
11/26/19 04:48 PM
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“Unintentional Conduct.”

I know of no one that intentionally botches a dispatch so they would have to repeat the method on the same animal. Even the lawyers on here could sell that.


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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: BillyTraps] #6676198
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Pretty sure it passed the House and Senate unanimously. Guess us trappers have no friends.


James 1: 19-20
Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: J Staton] #6676210
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Pretty sure it passed the House and Senate unanimously. Guess us trappers have no friends.



Really? They made an exception especially for us.


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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: J Staton] #6676213
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Pretty sure it passed the House and Senate unanimously. Guess us trappers have no friends.


trappers enjoy videos of crushing animals? not the ones I know.

how can anyone be against this legislation (can't believe it's NEEDED, but Satan has free reign here)

Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: Blaine County] #6676222
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[quote=Blaine County](1) the term `animal crushing' means actual conduct in
which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles,
or amphibians is purposely crushed, burned, drowned,
suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily
injury
(as defined in section 1365 and including conduct
that, if committed against a person and in the special
maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States,
would violate section 2241 or 2242)


These are not good words for us.[/quotell




Nah-lug says ya gotta have a crystal ball iffin' ya figger them words 'll be a problem for us.

Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: BillyTraps] #6676239
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The War on Animal Abuser's. They will now establish a special task force called "Animal force". Cost to the tax payer's 5.6 billion. Anybody with political connection's welcome to apply for employment in the new "Animal Force".

Just joking maybe. laugh


You only live once, so get over it!

Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: white marlin] #6676241
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by J Staton
Pretty sure it passed the House and Senate unanimously. Guess us trappers have no friends.


trappers enjoy videos of crushing animals? not the ones I know.

how can anyone be against this legislation (can't believe it's NEEDED, but Satan has free reign here)

According to James, Trump ain't on our side because he signed it so I figured that means none of our Senators or Representatives are on our side either. Using James's reasoning.
As for my opinion I think all animal cruelty laws are a joke. As long as it remains legal to kill the unborn I myself will not support any form of animal welfare legislation.


James 1: 19-20
Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: gryhkl] #6676254
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Originally Posted by Blaine County
(1) the term `animal crushing' means actual conduct in
which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles,
or amphibians is purposely crushed, burned, drowned,
suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily
injury
(as defined in section 1365 and including conduct
that, if committed against a person and in the special
maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States,
would violate section 2241 or 2242)


These are not good words for us.





Nah-lug says ya gotta have a crystal ball iffin' ya figger them words 'll be a problem for us.


So outside of the exception for trappers you are ok with setting the neighbor’s barking dog on fire or throwing it overboard with a rock on its leash?

Or tying a Walmart bag over its head? lol

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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: BillyTraps] #6676256
11/26/19 06:48 PM
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This should not be any of the Federal Government's concern.

Just more over reach so they can confiscate more tax dollars. and empower themselves.

Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 11/26/19 06:49 PM.

You only live once, so get over it!

Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture [Re: BillyTraps] #6676316
11/26/19 07:51 PM
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Keithc is spot on . Just watch some of the commercials that run humanizing animals.

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