Re: Bear Gall
[Re: vermontster]
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11/27/19 03:25 PM
11/27/19 03:25 PM
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J.Morse
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Here in Michigan we are not allowed to sell galls. Nor can we sell claws or teeth. You can sell skulls with teeth in them, and also full pelts with claws attached. For years I saved the claws off bear brought into my taxidermy shop if the customer didn't want them. I had gobs of them and was planning to unload them "someday". The state went and passed the law we have now, and suddenly my bunch of claws were worse than worthless. I thought I'd just wait until I was passing through a state where sale was legal (I had license numbers/hunter names/ dates taken, etc. for EVERY claw!). I found out that even leaving the state with them in my possession, with intent to sell, was a federal crime! In my opinion it is B.S. if the animal was taken legally, but I wasn't willing to test any law....state or federal. I pitched the bunch of them. It was sickening. That was back in the early 90's. After that if the customer didn't want the claws they went to the landfill.
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Re: Bear Gall
[Re: vermontster]
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12/05/19 09:07 AM
12/05/19 09:07 AM
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The NY warden called me yesterday and said it’s ok to sell my VT bear gall in NY as long as my license tag remains with it. I am meeting with the buyers on Monday hopefully. I will post my results once sold.
The bitterness of poor quality last a lot longer than the sweetness of low price
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Re: Bear Gall
[Re: 330-Trapper]
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12/05/19 10:36 AM
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330 that reason is just plain silly. I live in Idaho and have sold a lot of galls. They usually go for somewhere between $10 and $20 an ounce. I pack them out but I sure don't get rich. I can't imagine anyone risking fines and losing their license for that amount of money. I don't understand states that don't let you use all parts of an animal. Its silly to you but not Some, and I say some/ certain ethnic groups who have been Known as a "Fact" to poach Black bear for the medicinal qualities . Not solely for but mainly for the Gall. Several Poaching Cases on record here in this heavily imigrant State I live in. Exactly, Sundance you should google “the poaching king” scroll down and read the article from outside online
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Re: Bear Gall
[Re: vermontster]
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12/05/19 11:15 AM
12/05/19 11:15 AM
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I am having a hard time understanding some on this site being negative about selling animal parts but I would bet those same people sell animal parts they have trapped or hunted. Fur,Glands,Meat and so on. I feel as long as it is lawful to do if not than it’s a law issue. Like illegal trapping and hunting. I believe that I have done my best to operate within the laws of our state and harvested my bear legally. From what I have seen our bear population in VT is reaching overpopulation. I don’t ever want to see them gone from VT and we like eating them.
The bitterness of poor quality last a lot longer than the sweetness of low price
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Re: Bear Gall
[Re: vermontster]
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12/05/19 12:11 PM
12/05/19 12:11 PM
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They are lefty liberals vermonster. A hunter or trapper who legally takes an animal under that licence should be able to sell any part of said animal. Artificially drying up a legal regulated supply for a product that is in demand actually creates the black market by driving up the price which spawns the low lifes willing to take the chance to illegally take for just the part in demand wasting the other useful parts of the animal.
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Re: Bear Gall
[Re: Boco]
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12/05/19 01:31 PM
12/05/19 01:31 PM
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Squash
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They are lefty liberals vermonster. A hunter or trapper who legally takes an animal under that licence should be able to sell any part of said animal. Artificially drying up a legal regulated supply for a product that is in demand actually creates the black market by driving up the price which spawns the low lifes willing to take the chance to illegally take for just the part in demand wasting the other useful parts of the animal. Well said Boco, for every legally killed gall left in the gut pile, an illegal gall is taken to supply the demand. Silly laws will not change cultures that are thousands of years old. Out of respect for the animal ,My father taught me to try to utilize as much of an animal I killed as possible. To me leaving the gall in the gut pile is like killing a buck and cutting off the antlers and leaving the meat.
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Re: Bear Gall
[Re: vermontster]
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12/05/19 03:34 PM
12/05/19 03:34 PM
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I've been thinking about this thread a lot. I've tried to understand the thinking of the members who are against selling legally taken animal parts but I don't get it. Will they be ok when we can't sell legally taken fur because someone else thinks it is wrong? What about glands or other miscellaneous parts we use or sell? I have been taught to use every part I can of an animal. If there is a market someone will supply the product when it becomes lucrative enough. If it is causing a species to drift toward extinction then make it so expensive that it isn't worth the risk. I am all for laws and bag limits but also believe I should be able to use all parts of a legally taken animal.
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Re: Bear Gall
[Re: vermontster]
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12/05/19 03:59 PM
12/05/19 03:59 PM
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There must be a few pages of warnings out there if every time someone is called a lefty lib gets one. How many have called out James for being a lefty lib,and others. I think your living in LA LA Land 330. People are called out on here for spewing lefty lib stuff all the time.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Bear Gall
[Re: vermontster]
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12/05/19 04:25 PM
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I wasn't even talking to you 330,your barking up the wrong tree. It was vermonster who asked what kind of people were OK with that and I told him. For your information I live in a province where it is illegal to sell bear gall,and I'm staunch conservative. Your beef is with vermonster not me.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Bear Gall
[Re: vermontster]
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12/05/19 04:42 PM
12/05/19 04:42 PM
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I just got permission to trap a large track of land. All the owners want Is all the coyote stomach fat and the coyote gall bladders. they said they would come and do the gutting.
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Re: Bear Gall
[Re: The Beav]
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12/05/19 05:29 PM
12/05/19 05:29 PM
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I just got permission to trap a large track of land. All the owners want Is all the coyote stomach fat and the coyote gall bladders. they said they would come and do the gutting. 1 of a kind! Greenbelly an issue?
you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
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Re: Bear Gall
[Re: vermontster]
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12/05/19 05:33 PM
12/05/19 05:33 PM
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Bear gall laws are at root racist and discriminatory. And like most lefty liberal stuff highly political and emotional.
you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
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